Well yeah, art is made to be consumed by people.
And all art is inspired by other art. People write scifi books after reading other scifi books etc Thats not the issue here.
The issue is artists should be able to opt out of having their work taken and fed into a big project they have no control over.
There is already a well established practise of getting permission in academic settings for reprinting written work/journal articles/etc. etc. And all published authors and academics understand that their work will be read, maybe used in an academic setting, summarized, debated, discussed, quoted, etc. Getting permission is definitely a thing in academia.
Sure, permission needs to be sought for reprinting. That’s not what we are discussing though. I will just take your word on that second part because as far as I know none of my professors asked author permission before telling the class to read anything.
Ah, I misunderstood. Sorry, I thought you meant for reprinting since that involved copyright. (Like providing readers or … whatever those bound copied texts are that profs hand out. Do they still do that? haha) But you’re right, if it’s just reading or discussing you don’t need permission for that.
Also I want to clarify that I’m not against AI or machine learning generally, I just think creators need to be asked first before their work is given to any LLM, since it’s the owners of the LLMs who profit from their use, not the creators whose work helped grow it. That’s all I’m saying. I know AI’s isn’t going anywhere, and it can be used for a lot of great things. I just wish there were more protections for creators and their work, and that its growth was a little more ethical.
Such a well thought out and reasonable response. Thank you!
I generally do not agree with the law around intellectual property or even private property so we likely would not see eye to eye but I appreciate the chance to understand where you’re coming from and what you believe.
Well yeah, art is made to be consumed by people.
And all art is inspired by other art. People write scifi books after reading other scifi books etc Thats not the issue here.
The issue is artists should be able to opt out of having their work taken and fed into a big project they have no control over.
So in your opinion a should University have to ask each authors permission before using their work as a reference for each study run there one by one?
There is already a well established practise of getting permission in academic settings for reprinting written work/journal articles/etc. etc. And all published authors and academics understand that their work will be read, maybe used in an academic setting, summarized, debated, discussed, quoted, etc. Getting permission is definitely a thing in academia.
Sure, permission needs to be sought for reprinting. That’s not what we are discussing though. I will just take your word on that second part because as far as I know none of my professors asked author permission before telling the class to read anything.
Ah, I misunderstood. Sorry, I thought you meant for reprinting since that involved copyright. (Like providing readers or … whatever those bound copied texts are that profs hand out. Do they still do that? haha) But you’re right, if it’s just reading or discussing you don’t need permission for that.
Also I want to clarify that I’m not against AI or machine learning generally, I just think creators need to be asked first before their work is given to any LLM, since it’s the owners of the LLMs who profit from their use, not the creators whose work helped grow it. That’s all I’m saying. I know AI’s isn’t going anywhere, and it can be used for a lot of great things. I just wish there were more protections for creators and their work, and that its growth was a little more ethical.
Such a well thought out and reasonable response. Thank you!
I generally do not agree with the law around intellectual property or even private property so we likely would not see eye to eye but I appreciate the chance to understand where you’re coming from and what you believe.