The predominantly ludicrous lawmaker from Georgia did Biden a solid this weekend, telling Republicans the Democratic president is fiendishly attempting to make people’s lives better.
Did not Trump cause currently 25% of our national debt with his tax cuts? How the hell do they say this shit with a straight face
because they know people will believe their bullshit. Afterall, them gas prices were so high 🙄.
If the Left had a clue about marketing, they would be producing some patriotic video showing the successes of FDR and LBJ and then tying that imagery to Biden. Americans winning against Nazis, New Deal, waving American flags, etc. Have the whole video being narrated by MTG’s own words. Using the enemy’s own attacks against them.
If by “left” you mean democrats then they will not do this because it is not what their views are. They are ideologically as neoliberal as Reagan and Thatcher. This is part of why they don’t do as good of a job opposing the far right as they could, because they only exist as long as their only opposition is unhinged far right politicians.
And I would say that’s fairly representative of the views most voters have. The left needs to win the argument with voters before they can complain about the politicians.
I mean the opinions of the voting public are nearly always more complex than either Republican or Democratic party dogma. The problem is that there is no substantial way of politically engaging besides voting. I would argue actually that generally the public is way more left wing than it is given credit for, but a lot of people have no accessible ways to transform these ideas into action. And for this I don’t have an easy answer. Disclaimer, am a leftist so I would obviously think this, but I do still think that we would see more diverse political ideas if our political systems were made to be more open.
I fuckin wish the Dems were reliably neoliberal, in the vein of Clinton(s).
Neoliberalism is dope as fuck. Free trade and open borders let’s gooooo
Cough…student loan debt…cough
Imagine supporting an ideology that has been nothing but demonstrably harmful to most people except for a tiny handful.
They not only are against student loan forgiveness they also support Tony Blair. Yes that one, the war criminal who helped hand over prisoners to be waterboarded.
Don’t believe me? Go visit any of the websites that they infest.
While I am by no means a Clinton fan, a huge part of the student loan hellscape is less Clinton active malice/stupidity and more Gingrich and company leverage - AKA the usual right-wing obstructionist bullshit that people gave them the numbers to force through. It wasn’t helped by Clinton’s need to cave due to getting sloppy toppies in the Oval Office and the huge stink Newt and Starr raised to get their way…or the Perot school of ‘fuck you I got mine’ Libertarians who apparently needed placating to keep the Dems in office.
Yes because they held a gun to his head and ordered him to not veto it.
Neoliberals don’t like student loan forgiveness, they like Clinton who made it very hard to get it forgiven.
No gun is required when so-called self-interests are threatened. He shouldn’t have caved, but then he also shouldn’t have given credence to the welfare and social safety net talking points from the Reich wing. And the CBC damned well shouldn’t have gone along with bullshit ‘tough on crime’ narratives.
He didn’t veto it and no one forced him. There really is nothing else to say. The neoliberals knew full well the disaster that would follow but not only ignored it they also actively encouraged it.
Anyone with brains could see that if tuition is rising faster than income and you make student loans inescapable you would end up with mountains of debt. The only two options I can see
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They couldn’t see the obvious in which case they should have zero power.
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They knew this would happen and wanted it.
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Student loan debt balooning is caused by too easy access to loans coupled with too little state funding
And of course you are not supportive of forgiveness for it. Evidently you are going to continue to evade this issue.
I support forgiveness for student loans based roughly on income level, sure. I don’t think we should be subsidizing wealthy kids more than we already do.
It should go, basically in order:
- college dropouts
- government employees (teachers, social workers etc)
- others with similar income level and undergrad degrees
Then finally, mostly unforgiven
- post-grad degrees
- wealthy families
I’m very much in favor of progressive tax and social benefits.
I’m sorry, are you under the opinion that Democrats don’t push for student loan forgiveness? Biden literally took it to the Supreme Court lmao.
Not a neoliberal if you support loan forgiveness. Which you only sorta do so guess you are only sorta one.
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End occupational licensing, end single family zoning, cut corporate taxes, encourage freer trade and common markets. Raise taxes on non-poor people to pay for social programs. These are core neoliberal tenets.
Why do you want to make being poor even harder? These are evidenced-based methods of helping poor people.
I find the “raise taxes to pay for social programs” and “cut corporate taxes” to be somewhat contradictory. Reagan and Thatcher were textbook neoliberals if you need any examples, and they destroyed social programs and labor unions rather than supporting them.
In the 80s people also smoked indoors everywhere. Lots of dumb shit happened in the 80s. Then, over 40 years, people got smarter.
Individual taxes need to go up. Corporate taxes do not
I fail to see why you think helping corporations earning money will help individuals, especially with raising taxes on them. Corporations’ interests are lower wages and higher prices, worker’s interests are higher wages and lower prices. The only way to then increase wages is to force companies to do so, either through job disloyalty, strikes, regulations, or etc. Don’t see how lower taxes will make them pay more.
Also you could get student loans discharged in bankruptcy and Iraq was a functional country.
You neoliberals fixed that.
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You never answered why you want to tho
Mention the student loan thing.
What a fantastical waste of skin. Yet her cretin slaves vote for her.
Biden wishes he was FDR.
But I’ll give him a cookie for trying to cancel student debt, and then refusing to give up when SCOTUS decided to fuck us over.
Seems a lot like he gave up. What we got instead can’t be called half measures. Hell, they can’t even be called quarter measures.
Oh, you made it so for 6 months, non-payments don’t hit your credit? What happens after those 6 months? And interest continues to accrue during that time so you’ll find yourself more underwater than before.
Oh, you reduced the percent of income that is to be spent on paying off the debt? Did you adjust the interest rates too? No? So you’re extending people’s length of debt. Cool.
This isn’t even tossing a bandaid at the problem. It’s handing someone a self-help book while they’re on the ground bleeding out.
I wouldn’t call pursuing another path to forgive $10K giving up, I mean it’s literally the opposite of giving up.
Also its 12 months, not 6 months
And you are ignoring the benefits of the SAVE Plan https://www.npr.org/2023/07/14/1187545921/student-loan-forgiveness-save-repayment
https://www2.ed.gov/policy/highered/reg/hearulemaking/2021/idrfactsheetfinal.pdf
Biden is doing a ton considering he has had 0 help from Congress who has power of the purse. If you want interest rates adjusted you gotta go through Congress.
The dude you replied to isn’t here to debate or exchange ideas. He’s here to make sure you don’t believe in the process and don’t turn out to vote. It’s the same strategy the right used in the run up to the 2016 and 2020 election. Vote out every scumsucking republican you have especially in the statehouse where the real power lies. Get everyone you know to get registered and get them to the voting booth.
I agree that’s a high possibility, either way though I like to respond to posts like that for other potential readers. If OP wants to admit they are wrong, great, but it’s important we counter these kinds of posts with facts so others understand the truth as I agree disinformation is a powerful tool so it needs to be cut off at the knees.
fuck us over
You fucked yourself over by not showing up at the polls 6 years ago at the numbers needed to keep Trump out of office.
Voting (and not voting) has consequences. You fucked around, then you found out.
(to be clear, I am using the generic “you” here, not trying to beat up on OP)
This isn’t strictly true. People did show up to vote for Hillary, but not in electorally advantageous locations. Let’s not forget that she won the popular vote, it just wasn’t enough.
she won the popular vote
That’s like saying a team shot the most free-throws in a sport like basketball where the winner is the one who scored the most points. Or in football, having the most minutes of possession, but not scoring enough points.
The metric to winning is rather clear. Whether it is football, basketball or winning the White House.
You don’t get enough people out there across the country to win the EC and you lose. Period. So yeah, it is indeed strictly true.
Yup. When your choice is between boring, middle-of-the-road corporatist and 100% concentrated evil, you must choose the less-destructive candidate for the good of the nation, even if they don’t “do it” for you.
Its getting harder to pretend that a government that does nothing is a good idea
Like him or hate him FDR was a great man. LBJ… Not so much.
Edit: u ppl dont understand the term ‘great’ in reference to historical figures. Got ppl whining about FDR and gooberment bad below. Great does not mean good or their actions were good.
Great at what? Being the origin point of the overgrown federal government that has its grubby mits involved in everything that we’re stuck with now?
You don’t understand the word ‘great’ referring to historical figures.
G. Washington was a ‘great’ man.
Stalin was a ‘great’ man.
Hitler was a ‘great’ man.
Voldemort was a ‘great’ man.
Jesus was a ‘great’ man.
Lincoln was a ‘great’ man.
Genghis Khan was a ‘great’ man.
The Republicans are such good hype men for Joe Biden, he might as well pay them.
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I wish he was FDR
If only FDRs second bill of rights was passed… https://www.ushistory.org/documents/economic_bill_of_rights.htm
People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
Truer words…
Travesty that wasn’t taught in schools. Talk about based, it’s everything we’re fighting for now
Marianne Williamson is running (Democrat primary) with an economic bill of rights as the main thing in her platform.
She’s a grifter. The democrat version of trump, no thanks.
Can you please elaborate on that? I’m curious.
Self help author that rose to prominence on Oprah as a “spiritual advisor”, she should be viewed the same as Dr Phil, Dr Oz, and Rachel Ray
not me, I like my legs to be functional
Wholly cow, I just realized if they put him in a wheelchair, he’d win the next election. No one would vote against a guy in a wheelchair, right?
I’m sure the same party that repealed the right to abortion and is fighting for assault rifles in schools will campaign against a guy in a wheelchair.
And Trump would call him “Wheels” Biden.
“Look at him, senile, rolling around in that chair all hrrrrrrr.”
