It’s non-profit.
I don’t feel lost in a crowd of shitposters. I post something on c/poetry, ten people upvote and I’m like hey ten people read this, that’s cool. It feels real where Reddit does not often.
I am sometimes one of the ten. Thanks for sharing content.
I’m glad you like! I’ve discovered that if I check out several poetry ebooks on my phone at a time I’ll always stumble across something amazing. Someone asked me last week who my favourite poets are, and it’s really a five way tie.
Exactly this. Everyone has enough space to have their voice heard here. There aren’t too many threads I read where i get bored before I read everyone’s comments.
I post every day since I know people will see it and it won’t immediately get buried. I get to know the names of people that regularly comment on my posts. Just seems more personal.
Exactly. I feel like the smaller crowd and lack of stupid running joke comments makes it very positive.
Afaik upvote count on Reddit isn’t even real anymore. It is still somehow rooted on the real count but their algorithm tampers with the count in undisclosed ways.
That’s right, the votes are fuzzed. I left Reddit after I made a post about a Nazi, and Reddit banned me for harassing Nazis. Reddit is evidently ok with Nazis.
Capitalist platforms are okay with anything until it’s no longer good for business. Fascism, and by extension, Nazism, is generally good for business.
I think one of the major benefits Lemmy has over Reddit is the intentional lack of user karma. I think, on balance, that entire dynamic was more harmful than helpful in the long run. Allowing voting on posts - but not aggregating votes across all comments and posts - still allows community sentiment to be expressed towards comments and conversations, but at the same time prevents the sort of popularity contest bullshit that became so prevalent on Reddit after its nascent years.
Agreed. Karma was fun when Reddit began because it was truly useless internet points, but quickly fell off as soon as people got too serious about it. Buying/selling accounts with high karma, rules about only posting when you have a karma threshold, and of course the endgame now of buying stock if you have high enough karma. It’s just easier to throw away the whole concept here.
I never understood that… Why did people want karma points? Was it anything more than having ‘liked’ posts? There’s no real value. It’s like when my BIL used to give all the kids brownie points for getting salsa or reading a book.
Personal insecurity. The same reason why Instagram exists.
If you gamify something people with addiction and addiction-adjacent problems will inevitably interact with it in the gamified way. This was the first state of the karma system harming the site.
Then in the second stage once karma started getting more “serious” (preventing users from posting/commenting and being used as an “authenticity” check- what led to farmed and sold accounts) which led to a further breakdown of the karma system.
The underlying issue is despite being an absolutely useless measure in reality- the site itself ascribed value to them and caused people with (what we’d probably refer to as bad) economic incentives to act on that behavior then rationally acted.
Would it be possible to have consistent karma on Lemmy? With instances being able to defederate from one another I thought that would be impossible unless there was some centralized karma counter.
You would see the karma count according to your own instance. Different instances might then disagree about the exact karma count but your own instance should have the right number.
I get a total vote count for my comments and posts up and down its not made into one big scoreboard but its definatly something i can see.
Federation. I will never use centralised social media again…
Spez isn’t on here
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He’s waiting for one of the admins to commit suicide before he shows up and claims credit
God that’s so fucking funny.
@spez@sh.itjust.works
That people can make Android apps for it without caring about absurd API prices.
I don’t need a crappy first party app to use it on my phone.
It’s not owned by a corporation and no single entity has full control over it.
Until some megacorp decides to start flooding it with AI shit like reddit, then we’re fucked.
Just defederate! That’s one of the main benefits! :D
What if they floor them all?
Any instance worth its salt would ban them. Absolute worst case scenarios, we would still have whitelisted instances or you could make your own.
It’s a small community, which is rare on the internet these days.
Its noncommercial, which is almost completely unheard of on the internet these days.
Engagement.
Users tend to like or dislike your comments and posts more, and post comments and reply back more often.
Compared to the millions of users on Reddit, I get more interaction on lemmy.
It’s the small world effect. Federation works better for our tribal human brains. We aren’t designed to be in a room with a million people all talking at once.
At first, the redundancy of having multiple communities on different instances covering the same topics bugged me, but it’s actually a good thing because it means you’re grouped into smaller groups of humans and your voice will get heard. Rather than a few comments dominating the conversation, there are simply more conversations.
At first, the redundancy of having multiple communities on different instances covering the same topics bugged me, but it’s actually a good thing because it means you’re grouped into smaller groups of humans and your voice will get heard. Rather than a few comments dominating the conversation, there are simply more conversations.
I like that take.
Except when i am subscribed to multiple similar communities so i can hear those voices. Then something happens, and i see multiple reposts of the same thing by multiple users over multiple communities.
I dont know what the middleground is.
But maybe reframing towards the “smaller voices get heard” and learning to accept “the occasional shouts as an unfortunate downside to an overall better scenario” will help me.
Absolutely, I get replies on almost all of my comments and usually multiple. The engagement is really great.
I can be on here a LOT less than other apps and not feel like I’m addicted. I jump on to post a couple of things and scroll for a few minutes and I feel like I’m good for the day.
yeah that’s probably because there’s not very much content here. which I admit is good because lack of content equals reduced addiction.
I think it’s also the fact that there’s not any algorithm that’s literally built to keep you doom scrolling.
Being able to check stuff once or twice a day without feeling like im missing out is nice. There are enough algorithms that i can get a slice of lemmy-life.
And there are enough algorithms to almost support my doomscrolling on a bad day
I host my own and practically nobody can take it away from me. If I want to switch to Sublinks I can. I can swap the UI if I hate the default one. And it will never have ads or data collection.
It’s a completely open platform. I can make my own algorithm. I can fork it. I can make a compatible server from scratch if I want to. It’s ours, it’s everyone’s.
It being a completely open platform means there will definitively be data collection. Some entity will scrape the fediverse for data. It’s free, open and unprotected.
Yeah but at least it is data that I explicitly decided to share publicly (including votes and subscriptions, because well, that’s how ActivityPub works).
I meant more like, track your IP to give you local ads, analyze your browser cursor behaviour, visit frequency, how long I stay in a thread, etc. All things the official Reddit site and apps do (and probably a big factor as to why they shut down third party apps).
To be fair self hosting Lemmy is doing the opposite of protecting my privacy since my real identity has to be tied to my domain and server providers and my credit card. But at least I’m somewhat in control of the exact information my server distributes on my behalf.
And it’s that hidden metadata that’s super valuable because it’s much more detailed.
Feels like the earlier days of interesting reddit.
I have no doubts bots/hostile actors will find some way to fuck things up. Hopefully the devs can finish up tools to keep those problem actors at bay.
I feel instance admins/owners are in tune with the community to deal with the bad actors.
Instead of reddits “line goes up” mentality
I feel like there is more variety in the content here than there was on reddit. There’s less content, but it’s a lot more interesting than the stuff on reddit’s front page.
It’s also easier to find helpful people here than it was on reddit. Reddit was super arrogant and hostile compared to Lemmy.
oh man you don’t even notice the moderators here. it’s so nice, they don’t feel the need to butt into every fucking conversation
I do wish it was possible to comment in communities you moderate without having it marked as a moderator comment. Rarely do I want to make an “official” statement but if I’m a mod Lemmy defaults to making any mundane comment appear that way.
I think that is WIP to “wear a moderator hat”.
Luckily, multiple accounts are widely supported.
Most admins will have multiple accounts, an official-hat account and a casual account.After some federation drama, i believe marking posts as “official” or not is in the works (as opposed to mod/admin always being official). I dont know if the “official” hat also aliases the user (so there can be a “moderator” account that any mod can assume)
Most admins will have multiple accounts, an official-hat account and a casual account.
That would have been smart, yes.
Glad to hear it’s being worked on though.
I’ve just had a ton of really friendly and amusing interactions with people here, that’s my favorite thing. Not sure what feature Lemmy has that makes that happen though.
Not sure what feature Lemmy has that makes that happen though.
It’s open and small. It takes a certain type of person for that to be appealing so despite our differences there is some quality we share.
