• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    There was genocide on Palestinians before Oct. 7th. Do you think a bunch of people randomly decided to attack Israel for fun?

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      How can there be a genocide of the Palestinians if their population has been steadily increasing over the last 50 years? Wouldn’t a real genocide result in a population decline?

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          “Not completely successful” genocide would mean killing everyone except for a few that got away. Hitler wasn’t “completely successful” in exterminating Jews. In this case though, the Palestinian population has grown nonstop, more than quadrupling in the past 50 years. Remind me how that is a copout.

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        Even setting aside “population growth” as a popular genocide denial trope, its a false claim. During the Gaza blockade dating back to 2008 the IDF implemented a policy designed to strictly limit the number of food calories entering the Gaza corridor, for the purpose of engineering famine as a limit on population growth.

        Consequently, Gaza residents have some of the highest mortality figures in the world both in terms of shortened lifespans and high rates of infant mortality. Their population has been stagnant for decades, in a region where every other neighboring population has grown over time.

        This is because of a deliberate Israeli policy to cap the number of Palestinian residents who can survive in Gaza. It is a textbook instance of a concentration camp.

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          They aren’t targeting civilians. This is Internet misinformation. If you actually look at what’s happening instead of getting all your information from social media comments. Hamas is embedded underneath civilians. Hamas has said they want civilian deaths.

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            The IDF has said that they want civillian deaths, lmao. Stop defending the eviceration of tens of thousands of children, you’re an actual monster.

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              I’m quite literally not. But the way your acting is why nobody can have an actual truthful conversation about that’s happening.

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                Everyone else is truthfully acknowledging Israels stated and shown intentions as a fascist, genocidal aparthied state to wipe Palestinians off the face of the Earth.

                The only solution to this conflict is the complete dismantling of Israel and replacing it with a democratic, secular state where Palestinians are equal citizens.

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                  … I am at a loss for words. If only we lived in a world where either side would let that happen. But if in a different universe that was possible then I agree with you. I wish it was.

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            Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo…

            How about that starvation with Israel controlling and blocking all ingress and egress points on the Gazan border, eh?

            Yeah, totally not targeting civilians. Are you this stupid for everything or just something you’ve swallowed the propaganda for?

            I’m giving you the benefit of not being paid for this bullshit, but maybe I shouldn’t given the age of your account.

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            The IDF has said that they want civillian deaths, lmao. Stop defending the eviceration of tens of thousands of children, you’re an actual monster.