• Candelestine@lemmy.ca
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    Yeah, we need to spread out a little more. Fediverse is not about having centralized concentrations that can be targetted.

    Ideally every minor Instance could have one major community located there, that could serve as the central space for that particular community. That’s pretty impossible of course, but it paints the picture.

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      I’m running a small instance, thelemmy.club

      We even have built in Voyager/WefWef at app.thelemmy.club :P

      I don’t advertise is too often as I’m not trying to get huge, we have about 120 users and have been up a month. But we have plenty of resources to grow a little.

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      Tinfoil hat theory: OG Lemmyheads are attacking the big centralized communities and taking them down in order to force all the new users to spread amongst the smaller instances like we’re supposed to, preventing inevitable corporate control of the ActivityPub platform

      I doubt that’s anywhere close to the truth but I choose to believe it, crusty old hackers pulling the plug on their children for our own good

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      Why can’t we have community tags for grouping? Like have a “tag” you can subscribe to that encompasses all “meme” communities, or “politics”, etc. Then if something goes down people can default to whatever. Maybe you could even make it so if you wanted to post you could post it into tag and the tag decides based off metrics which community to actually post it in? Idk, maybe I am dumb. But that seems cool.

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        That’s actually not a bad idea. It’d be cool to have communities, community tags, and post tags. You could choose to sort by whichever you want. You could go to a community, or you could just look at the “solarpunk” tag if you want, similar to Twitter I guess.

  • osti@lemmy.ca
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    I guess I’m lucky to be on lemmy.ca, but it’s concerning that a lot of the popular stuff is located on two servers. What’s the point of the fediverse, then?

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      People are allowed to support whatever political causes they wish, so long as they are willing to engage civilly and fairly with other people. This is how the modern world works, with dialogue and debate instead of censorship, cowardly avoidance and control.

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        I don’t believe that you’re consistent on this position.

        I would be incredibly shocked if you had the same stance towards white supremacists, Nazis, or pedophiles that want to remove age of consent.

        If you do, then cheers. You’re practically a unicorn (in the sense that it’s extremely rare). I don’t disagree with that position as long as it’s consistant

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          I disagree with what you say, but will defend to death your right to say it. If you don’t hear that often, find better friends.

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            That’s a very naive view, and ignores the existence of legitimately harmful opinions that must be fought

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        Well, people are also absolutely free to choose not to associate with, use services from people whose opinions they find objectionable etc. Nothing wrong with that.

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          Of course they are. But once they start telling other people what to do, they are doing a different thing from that, are they not?

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            They’re just expressing an opinion just like the Lemmy devs have. (note: I have not looked into what their views are exactly so I’m not saying parent poster is correct)

            Nobody is being forced to do what they suggest.

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                At the end of the day it is just an opinion even if it is in the form of a direction because the one giving it has no real influence on or ability to make the readers do it and they know it.

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                  Directions don’t only become directions when you have power. They’re just ineffective if you don’t have it. Doesn’t mean you’re not at least trying to control people

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      From a user interaction POV, just have a couple of accounts. I started out on a small server, got a .world and kbin account, then got a beehaw account. If a server is down, I just switch instances.

      From a community standpoint, it’s terrible because the instance hosts the only live version of the communities. IMHO communities shouldn’t be instance specific. Every (federated) instance should have a two-way aggregation of identically named communities. That has some (minor) drawbacks, but is much better for new users to understand and is much more resilient to individual instance failures and outages. (/rant.off)

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    I understand why there are many servers, but why is there no central single sign on for many servers? Same with syncing community’s over instances.

    I’m new so not sure why or why not.

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      It’s the same reason there isn’t a central email sign on. Different people control different servers. They’re all just using the same protocol so they are interoperable. Just like your email, you have an address that points to your particular account on your particular provider. Name@host.tld. It’s essentially the same thing as email, just a different form of interaction.

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    And this is why i think forums are a much better fit for the matrix protocol, it really doesn’t make much sense to use activitypub for this.

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      This right here. The primary benefit of the matrix protocol would be that a community would keep on chugging as any particular instances go up and down. There would be no “home” instance that goes down and takes the community with it.

      This choice is going to see some communities get really big, but then the “home” instance goes belly-up, or makes some, ahem “management decisions” that really hurt the community, and they are going to have to painfully jump ship again and again.

      The downside would be higher resource demands for instance owners -but that’s a problem that will get better over time, instead of worse.

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        The resource issue also isn’t really that big of a deal, i’ve managed to keep up with tons of big chat rooms with messages every second on my OLD matrix server, and it’s been refined since then.