• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    5 months ago

    Dude. No.

    The occupation after the war sure wasn’t pretty, but the allies didn’t hang around for 75 more years oppressing the shit out of Germany and going back in any time they felt like shooting some civilians, or wandering into somebody’s house and saying hey this one is mine now, or destroying water supplies just for the hell of it.

    They didn’t kill around 10% of the civilian population of Japan over the course of less than a year after the war after any real military threat was ended, just because they felt like getting back at them for Pearl Harbor.

    Yes, all countries commit atrocities in war. War is the process of atrocity. It’s an abomination. But not every way of going to war is the same, and what’s happening in Gaza is so different from “collateral damage” or bombing civilians in an actual military conflict, even an unequal one, that to describe it as such is basically apologia on behalf of Israel.

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      5 months ago

      but the allies didn’t hang around for 75 more years oppressing the shit out of Germany

      Actually, they’ve been doing that ever since somebody decided to give Columbus his three little ships.

      You’re missing the point.

      The only thing that’s really unique to Israel’s white supremacist genocide is that we get to witness it on our cellphones and desktops for the first time - it perfectly fits the historical pattern of colonialist genocide perpetrated by the (so-called) “West” (of which Israel forms a part) for hundreds of years now. And they called those genocides “war,” too.

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        5 months ago

        Oh! We’re talking about Columbus? Yeah, that was way worse than Gaza. Just an outright unapologetic slaughter of everyone.

        I thought we were talking about Hamburg and Tokyo and the allies in WW2. IDK how I got that impression.

        (I’m not sure what you’re trying to get out of this interaction, but I think I’ve pretty much said everything I was interested in saying at this point.)