(No, just keep on. These kinds of regulations were long overdue)
EU has its many flaws but they pretty much doing their job in regards of consumer rights, human rights and protection of personal data.
If we could only fix that veto issue… And the parliament issue… Someday hopefully :')
Hungarian is against fixing the Veto Issue!
I veto that
Viktor is it you?
*Swears in hungarian
If Article 17 (Upload filters) didn’t make it through I cannot see chat control making it (even tho I think we shouldn’t even let it get so far)
The worst part about chat control is that they proposed it without having a single clue as to how this would be set up, let alone managed and controlled.
Them not being able to give clear answers to absolutley valid and fair questions just breaks more trust in their competence.
Anyway, next I’d like them to ban anything that can be considered factory new e-waste, like cheap usb fans that break after a month, or keychain speakers that don’t even sound good. There’s so many things in production that just don’t have any business existing.
Yeah, it was the same way with upload filters… Me and the boys were protesting, experts were saying it wouldn’t work yet the EU politicians kept being stubborn…
Yeah, I think they should ESPECIALLY ban these non refillable vape sticks… I mean, the batteries are practically unused yet it’s more or less useless after being emptied. And there’s always the refillable option. (No vapes would be best, get off that sh***)
The battery thing is for the environment
Human rights? Lol I wish, frontex is just waiting to start shooting migrants at the borders
Unpopular opinion: most migrants come to Europe from safe countries. We should absolutely 100% allow people who flee from war zones to take refuge in Europe. But most migrants who currently cross the border illegally are coming from places like Turkey or Morocco. Is there a war tearing these countries apart that I do not know about? I agree, asylum is a human right, but it’s just that: a right. It’s not an obligation. People abuse that right and then complain they’re not handed stuff on a silver plate.
If Europe went to war right now, like in the good old days, I’d flee to safety as well. No doubt about that. But I’d be happy to take refuge in the nearest safe country, not try to get into Canada illegally, just because I heard it’s a nice place to live.
That’s not an unpopular opinion, that’s just a sheltered opinion. A few things you need to get out of your head:
- That so called ‘safe countries’ are safe for everyone. This doesn’t say anything about those countries, it only says how little you know about them.
- People seek asylum trivially and are choosy beggars for going to X country (doesn’t matter where, this kind of sentiment is always the same)
- Europe going to war was ‘the good old days’.
- That Europe isn’t at war right now
- The act of being born in a ‘safe country’ makes you more deserving of it than other human beings
Most people come from Turkey or Morocco? They might come from there but most of the asylum seekers nationality is not Turkish or Moroccan. Most asylum seekers are from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq or poorer African nations. This changed year by year of course but that’s generally true. Also of course EU states have an obligation to respect human rights, it’s literally law in the European convention of human rights. A right implies an obligation by somebody else to honor that right. What does it matter if your home country is at war or not? If you can’t feed your family due to economic problems or climate change or whatever, it’s more than fair enough to get out of there.
The European Convention of Human Rights, the Council of Europe and its court looks after human rights, not the EU.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights
You are right. My intention was to refer the whole of Europe as EU (which I know its incorrect) rather than go into specifics but regardless thanks for the clarification.
Question, do these bodies have teeth? And if so would these teeth exist without the EU?
My understanding of the EU is that the only thing they can really do to coerce uncooperative members is threaten to revoke membership.
So, if these bodies are not EU, and it wants to impose a sanction against a member nation, by what mechanism can it enforce that?
Just wondering.
Yes, the ECHR does have teeth. The UK is still subject to its rulings despite brexit
UK is still a member of The Council of Europe, which is different to the European Council…
What is the ECHR? It is an international court, set up in 1959, to rule on individual or state applications alleging violations of the civil and political rights set out in the European convention on human rights. Its judgments are binding on the 46 Council of Europe member states that have ratified the convention.
The EU cannot threaten revoking membership of the EU, there is no mechanism to expel a member state. There is only article 50 for the state leaving of its own accord, or suspension of rights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_7_of_the_Treaty_on_European_Union
Reminder: Steve Jobs was a non-engineer, non-designer Marketing guy who was famously against charity and refused to pay child support despite being mega rich.
He didn’t create the I-anything. He took what talented people did and made himself the face of it. He was a bad dude, a model capitalist, and the world is better for his preventable, self-inflicted early demise. Thanks for being into alternative “medicine” at least, Steve.
Elon Musk is a wannabe Steve Jobs, it all makes sense.
He went to Switzerland to try the proton therapy to cure cancer. When you know how expensive it’s, he could help a lot of people.
He went to Switzerland to try the proton therapy to cure cancer. When you know how expensive it’s, he could help a lot of people.
You sound like if Steve Jobs fucked your mom and never called her back X’D
If I slap you there’s a non-zero chance Steve Job’s cock falls out of your mouth.
I mean, it’s pretty damn low though.
I’m actually not an admirer of mr. Jobs either, should have clarified that.
I just found amusing such amount of anger, like something personal is involvedNo, I just don’t like when the do nothing capitalists, living or dead, take credit for the work and technical achievements of people that actually provide something of worth to humanity. People should think of rooms of engineers toiling and exhausted factory workers when they think about how their iphone was made, not Donald Trump in a turtleneck and jeans blustering about the magic phone he made.
User expandable/replaceable storage, please.
There’s no reason whatsoever that a 2TB iPad should cost £1250 more than a 128GB one. I put an extra 2TB in my PS5 the other week for under £100.
Honestly one of my favorite things about my ps5. I can appreciate the small repair moves, but I’d still appreciate „Other OS” being brought back.
OtherOS is never coming back, it gives too much freedom to probe at the hardware and find security exploits.
Sony also didn’t like it that companies bought PS3s in bulk and used them as cheap compute power. They sell the consoles at a loss but make that up on game sales and licensing. Someone buying them and not gaming is cutting into their profit.
They officially supported that aswell, then they quietly stopped the way Kia left the furry community
Whatcha mean about Kia and the furry community? A quick search has failed me.
With phones and tablets I can understand, honestly. Soldered-in insanely fast storage space is quite expensive. Only recently a 2TB NVMe drive (much slower than what’s in an iPad) came down to reasonable prices. 1k+ is still a hella overcharge, but for the type memory it is, I can understand it being more than a standard NVMe.
Expanded storage slots would be great, too… but slow as shit I’d it’s SD. Are iPads waterproof? If not, then that’s not an issue, but if they are, I could see that being a problem as well.
Expandable storage does not compromise waterresistance. If a phone with a Sim card slot can be IP68 rated, then a phone with a combo sim/SD card slot can as well.
Nice, noted! Then that’s not an issue. My only issue then would be the speed of the storage. Not a big issue on my iPad as I don’t use it for much, but running stuff and even going through pictures on my phone would be a nightmare (…which is my fault for having 15k pictures on it and not clearing it out i. Years…)
If you have problems with going through pictures, it’s not the storage speed problem, that’s for sure. Even the slowest sd card is fast enough to load a picture in human speeds
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I have a 512gb micro SD card in my phone… you just need to avoid the premium phones then you have options
I’m still bitter that Samsung delayed the release of their PCIe 4.0 SSDs because Sony was buying up all their NAND stock, only for them to be sold to scalpers.
Fairphone still puts SD-Card slots in their phones, i doubled my storage for 40€
DO MANDATORY 3.5mm JACK NOW
THE PERSON THAT DOWNVOTED THIS DESERVES THEIR AIRPODS TO RUN OUT OF BATTERY DURING A 12 HOUR FLIGHT SITTING NEXT TO A CHILD AND THEIR CHATTY NO-VAX-MAKING-MY-OWN-BREAD-LOOK-AT-THE-PICTURES-OF-MY-C-SECTION-DELIVERY MOTHER
That’s why you carry two sets of Airpods on a 12 hour flight. /s
Need more of this energy in my life
When you land in your 30’s the warm feeling that makes you crave for a better world becomes a seething anger towards those who make this world harder to realize.
And you either take it out on strangers on the internet or become Ted KaczynskiBased. Also your writing style is great. Reminds me of those old “THIS IS A MOTHER FUCKING WASP” memes
Ahah thanks, but I am not based.
I’m just sour and acid, pH3 as in my name
I’m with you. I still use my 3.5mm jack daily. I’ve got some cheap PC stereo speakers next to my bed, so I can listen to stuff to fall asleep to. They suck for music, but are just fine for audiobooks for instance.
I gotta say, I love my AirBuds sooooo much. I only use my nice cans on my computer anymore.
That’s a different use case though. Falling asleep with cheap speakers is a much better idea than big speakers… My partner and I leave shows or long VODs on to sleep, and even with the bass all the way down, sometimes I feel like it’s a bit distracting.
You’re onto something—I should snag us a pair of 2.0 speakers and just switch to those for sleep. Then we wouldn’t have to adjust the sub all the time.
I wish I had a 3.5mm jack :( wired is better quality at the end of the day.
My phone came with a USB-3.5mm adapter but I never end up using it.
I’d be fine with the lack of the port if they at least gave us 2 USB-C ports so I could charge and listen without a splitter.
I’m surprised their isn’t a phone case with a built in DAC and 3.5 tbh.
Why would you not use a usb-c headset?
Because 3.5mm is an already existent audio standard that is not only for cell phones but for sound instruments in general, because all my earphones and earbuds are 3.5mm and because I’d like to listen to music while the phone is plugged in and charging
Playing devil’s advocate here, but there’s spillters for that.
“Just use a dongle lol”
Quite a high chance that your phone will also run out of battery on a 12 hour flight.
Edit: To clarify, I meant that it’s annoying to not be able to charge while using your headphones.
3.5 works everywhere else and I prefer my headphones to work with my audio gear. The inflight entertainment on Delta uses 3.5 for example.
It takes 5 minutes at most to get another hour of playback from my headset. You do not need a headphone jack in this day an age, and I say this as an avid music listener. Also ANC won’t work if your battery is dead most of the time, so having a wired option is not that useful for your flight
IT TAKES 0 SECONDS TO HAVE ∞ HOURS OF PLAYBACK FOR MY HEADSET.
Talking seriously, I really hate that everything in this day and age has to come with a battery: it’s a useless waste of resources.
When you buy a good set of cabled earphones it will be good for life (I used my AudioTechnica M50 for more than 10 years and only had to change the cable once), wireless you’ll have to throw them away when the batteries will eventually die (in 3 years on average).
E-waste is a serious issue, if you want to go green, go cable <3Okay so I go running quite often, no phone on me, just my watch (which is on my wrist) and my AirPods.
How does your setup work in my regard? Because I genuinely don’t see a way to go cabled for it without changing how I do things, and having a cable running to my watch is just stupid.
(I do use wired headphones whenever I’m at home because we all know it’s better at a fundamental level) but let’s be honest AirPods have their place.
Dude…
- Never said that bluetooth buds/earphones should be dismantled, please abandon this “if you have an argument for your thing it means you’re against my thing” mindset, it makes you sound dumb and you are not;
- Back in the 90’s joggers would run with huge-ass cassette walkmans powered by 4x AA batteries strapped on their shorts and hardly anyone popped an hernia or got strangled by the earphones: while we had great achievements in terms of electronics wearability, don’t let comfort be your cage.
Yeah I realize my comment came off as argumentative and isn’t really how I meant it, I more so meant I can’t see a way for me to use a wired set without changing how comfortable my run currently is. (Again, I do PREFER wired for home use etc, but on the go I just can’t use anything but my AirPods for comfort). I think it’s also an ease of use thing for me too, as I LOVE that I can go for that run, come home, take a shower WITH THEM, to rinse off, then sit down with my steam deck and they are already connected without me doing a thing. I think I’m just spoiled by the ease of use the more I type about this honestly.
If you find yourself having a good run with them, have at it, don’t let anyone yuck your yum.
I just want to be given the possibility of making the choice I think it’s best for my use cases
I don’t think anyone’s claiming that wireless headphones do not have their place, instead that there’s no reason not to have the option to use wired headphones on a phone because they’re much more reliable and durable than wireless.
Nobody is implying that Bluetooth headphones are inherently bad, but just that the additional choice offered by a wired headphone option would be very useful.
Yes. Also I need a SCSI connector. Do that obsolete piece of shit as well.
FULL FLEDGED 40-GPIO-PIN LIKE A RASPBERRY PI
Fuck that. Do 16-lane PCIe gen 5 instead
OPEN MOTHERBOARD SO I CAN SOLDER RANDOM SHIT
Also a legacy 25 pin serial port, you never know when it’d come in handy
You mean parralel port right? I need to be able to drive 8 LEDs without any additional drivers.
I mean we can have both serial and parallel interfaces. Also two ps/2 ports because I want to be able to plug both a mouse and a keyboard.
And a dedicated true ADC game port. This shit was lit.
The number of times and situation I’ve wished I had wired earbuds. And this is someone who generally uses wireless headphones. The fact that they removed it in the first place is bs
At least the EU protects consumers’ rights, which is a breath of fresh air and it is something to be appreciated. Not going to lie.
Especially in contrast to the US who completely stopped pretending to support consumers.
Let’s hope it stays that way, now that Fiona Scott Morton was appointed “Chief Economist of EU’s Directorate-General for Competition”.
Are they objectively doing this to help consumers though, or is there another reason and it just so happens to benefit consumers.
They are doing it to help consumers and protect the environment by forcing modularity and recyclable components.
Sure buddy. EU politicians are just absolute saints compared to the rest of the world, and there’s nothing in it for them. Jesus.
If I could replace my government with the EU, I would not hesitate.
Don’t be salty because we’ve got a working democracy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sure, it isn’t perfect, but it’s not all about the money here. Being a politician on that level already pays quite nicely without being bought by a company or two. And voters have a lot of power over who gets into the EU parliament, so a lot of them really do represent the common folks.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Sideloading, too.
For a second I was thinking about chromebooks because you can’t install native packages and only install apps from Play Store. Till I remember that you can enable app-dev mode to install any .apk (sideload). But does it count? I need to enable dev-app mode which can’t be reverted. Additionally it annoys you on the lock screen with a red text that this chromebook has unverified packages. You can always enable it without any further downsides.
But at least you can install natively Linux on any Chromebook like a normal x86 Laptop or ARM64 Device.
No, the EU wants sideloading on iOS starting from 2024 iirc.
For all IPhones or only new ones?
For all the iphones getting updated in 2024 although they mentioned with iOS 17. In EU. Dunno if Apple will extend the thing outside Europe.
Look, I’m happy about the EU regulating these things and think it’s great for the overall ecosystem. But can we please stop with the “Apple users are braindead” circlejerk? It’s so fucking cringe, and it unironically reminds me of the unebearable zeal that Apple cultists used to (and probably still do but I see it less) impose on anyone who made the mistake of getting to close to them.
I’ve had many Android phones over the years, and one iPhone 8. While I am considering moving to a de-Googled Android for privacy reasons, I have to say, my iPhone has held up better than any of my Android phones (Galaxy S3, S4, LG G3) did, without needing to replace the battery. Just because you can’t understand why someone might want one doesn’t mean everyone who gets an iPhone is an idiot.
I would much rather have left this kind of tech chest-beating over at reddit.
Edit: This was directed more towards the community as a whole and to the commenters I’ve seen saying this kind of thing in this thread and most other threads like it in lemmy/reddit. The original post by OP isn’t really what I was responding to.
Those who are still on the ‘apple bad’ train like to forget they are running an OS built by an ads company.
Every phone manufacturer has some bad shit, I choose to stick with apple cuz I already have a big library of paid stuff.
I’ve been flashing custom firmware on my phone since before Android was a thing, I’ll have you know my OS is built by dodgy Russian hackers installed on a dodgy Chinese phone, thank you very much.
At least they with android can change and look at everything since its open source. Root and toot. Ios will fall due to its lock ins just like Microsoft once did. Same same but different.
Excuse you, I use CalyxOS on my phone. I also use Linux on my PC. Am I allowed back on the “apple bad” train? Tbh, I don’t think Apple products are bad. I just hate the company, just like many MANY others.
Apple products are fine, generally well built and easy to use, especially if you value multiple interconnected devices.
The major con is all the horrible tactics Apple uses to protect it’s walled garden. Without that, they can’t extort users into staying because we know their devices and price are not the reason.
Apple products come with a large fine at the point of purchase
FTFY.
Firstly running Android != running Google on it.
Secondly you prove exactly the point. They try to make you dependent on their proprietary technology, forcing you to use their app store, apps, chargers, repair shops, desktop OS, TVs etc. (you can circumvent each of these point, but it requires always some amount of technical time investment).
I don’t really mind the non-replacable batteries tbh. Water resistance is much harder when you need to design your phone with a removable battery.
I do want the SD card slots back though. I don’t care about having two Sim cards, I want my enormous local storage that I can transfer in 8-10 seconds back
Hi, I’m sorry that this makes you feel uncomfortable. It wasn’t my aim to make people feel that way. Even if I was making fun of Apple devices and users it doesn’t reflect the whole spectrum of my feelings. I do think that Apple has made some technological milestones and that their products are a strong alternative comparing them to the other ones (Windows Phone *cough cough)
Even if Apple isn’t my favourite brand I still believe that competition drives progress which is why I’m actually glad Apple is such a big competition and vice versa. And it is because of users like you.
I don’t really want to denounce Apple users for their phone choice. As I see it we’ve all chosen our phone by our past influences and experiences, and those naturally differ so there’s no objective right and wrong here. Ultimately, you choose what suits you best!
And to be really fair, the only phones I’ve seen so far that would tick off all the boxes are old Android phones and the Fairphones.
Ah nah, it’s OK I wasn’t talking to you specifically. The meme is fine by itself – it just attracts certain types that do like to say the kind of things I was referring to. Perhaps I should have replied to one of the other comments I saw that said this instead.
Fuck Apple
No we can’t.
If privacy is your concern the better option could be e.g. some google free android variant. There are several other OSes that are specialised in this regard and I think it’s not a pro argument for apple.
I’d love if they added a minimum security-update time for the OS. 5 years of OS upgrades should be the norm, and at least 7 more years of life-support, where security updates are provided.
It is ridiculous how fast phones become unsupported and unsafe. The systems are so specialised that open source OS can not support them all. It’s all proprietary technology, dependant on proprietary code.
Once the last security update is shipped, the phone very quickly becomes a serious security vulnerability. Modern messaging formats such as emails and whatsapp become potential vectors of an attack. Visiting a Website might be enough to compromise ones phone. Even if every application you depend on didn’t already drop support, the phone is basically e-waste because of the OS.
On this front, Apple has actually been decent. They support their old hardware much longer than many android brands. However I still think anything below 10 years is absolutely ridiculous as it renders the whole device unusable.
I wonder if in future we will have the same issue with cars and other items now dependant on internal computers.
It’s funny how Apple does offer decent support from a phone perspective, but their computers get dated fast.
I just recently built a new PC after having my previous one for ten years. I didn’t strictly need to but I wanted to upgrade, my old PC is still fine.
Apple doesn’t offer that kind of support for their computers.
I don’t think you’re making a fair comparison there really. You should be comparing Apple to someone like Dell, HP, Asus, etc.
What you’re really comparing Apple’s support to is your own, because you’re the one building and maintaining that PC’s hardware. Plus take a look at your 10 year old PC, does every component of it - motherboard, GPU, etc. still get security updates? Motherboards are one of the worst offenders in this area for just arbitrarily dropping support.
The fact that the PC ecosystem is so open is why it can last so long, but I don’t think it’s as imbalanced as you’re suggesting.
Disclosure: I don’t own any apple products
Intel mac’s bought a couple years ago soon won’t be able to upgrade to the latest MacOS version, this same thing happened when they switched from PPC to Intel. On the other hand you can install Windows 10 on a pentium 2 and hell, of you could figure out a way to get tpm 2 to work you might be able to get 11 going. Some Linux distros with modern kernels only recently dropped support for PPC. Point being Apple ended support intentionally as they just don’t give a shit about their customers, their only interest is in money.
You’re talking about an entire architecture change, though. If you’re going to compare like-for-like, try installing Windows 11 on an ARMv7 machine, never mind that Microsoft frequently drops support for older processors anyway.
Yes, I have installed Windows 10 and 11 on ARM v7. Infact Windows CE was running on arm processors for a good long time with continued support. Windows hasn’t dropped support for any processors at all to my knowledge. Windows 11 required TPM2 but that’s not a processor. Your motherboard is the determining factor there, you can actually buy a TPM module for pretty dang cheap. Considering most PC manufacturers have had TPM on their systems used for a while it’s not a large factor. Those most impacted were people who did custom built systems and bought cheap motherboards. I actually mentioned this is my original comment but… Here we are I guess.
Even Desktop CPUs stop getting security updates. Intel 7th gen is on the chopping block soon.
laughs in early 2011 15” MacBook pro
While you’re right, I can’t go past High Sierra… after popping in a SSD and 16GB RAM, that motherfucker still tears it up. It helps that it has a dedicated GPU, I suppose.
Same experience as you with PC though—my partner’s 4670k/1070 were doing just fine until they tried to play Persona 5. That CPU just couldn’t handle the train station; all those people dropped it to under 10FPS. Ten year old machine though, played Elden Ring at about 40FPS at 1440p! (The 1070 was the most recent part in their machine.)
12600k/3070 now, and it handles EVERYTHING. I’m jelly. I’ve got a 9900k and it’s beautiful, but I get TotK stutters and they don’t.
I had a 4670k in mine, alongside a 970. It did most of the things I wanted well enough on medium-high, so I was mostly content. For a while I contemplated getting a newer CPU and slotting that in to squeeze some more time out of it, but after realising that Intel only supports their sockets for like a fortnight or so, I swapped to AMD for the new build.
What’s in your new build? I bet it blew your mind when you played anything you were used to!
I love both AMD and Intel, but the CPU socket being only for one generation is a full non-issue. If I’m going to upgrade my CPU, I’m going to upgrade my everything. I’ve legitimately never had the urge to only replace my CPU hahaha
I hate changing tech so I really just wanted to pop the CPU out and plonk in a stronger one. I figured it’d be a cheaper job than just building a completely new system, which to be fair it is.
My new computer is running on a Ryzen 9 7900X3D, alongside an Intel Arc A770 LE. The last-gen graphics cards cost way too much where I live, and the current gen I don’t really want to touch with their crazy power consumption and proclivity for spontaneous combustion, coupled with their ridiculous prices. Figured I’d give Intel a go, and I’m actually really satisfied with it!
My biggest “wow” moment was honestly opening up a project in Synthesizer V and seeing it all render instantaneously, whereas before I’d need to wait for some 10-15 seconds for it to build a buffer for a small part of the song. Doesn’t even matter how many tracks I have, it’s so speedy!
That’s a FANTASTIC machine!
The big problem with popping a new CPU in is how slow all the other stuff on your mobo is. Your old mobo maybe has one m.2 port? Might even be SATA m.2? We never used it on the 4670k machine. Also RAM speeds, if you could pop a 13900k in there, it’d be right crippled by DDR3. Always new mobo with new CPU for me. Also because I upgrade my CPU every 7-9 years, and stuff changes insanely. My partner’s mobo has FOUR GOSH DANG m.2 SLOTS. FOUR! We almost went SATA-less but had an unopened 4TB HDD so we popped that in there.
No m.2. I was overall okay with the speed, it just wasn’t completely keeping up. The way I see it, if I could’ve plopped out the CPU and swapped for something a few years newer, like 2017 or so, I’d probably have been much less inclined to build a new computer altogether.
I don’t like switching tech much. It’s such a hassle. I kept my OnePlus One around until 2020, at which point I replaced it with a second-hand iPhone XS because Apple supports their phones forever by phone standards. I work as a software dev, so I already spend 8 hours of my day mucking about with tech, it’s not something I’m overly keen on doing in my off hours.
Thus far I’m really enjoying m.2, it’s a lot smoother than running cables and stuff for a SATA drive. I have a few SATA ports I believe but I still have a m.2 slot open, so we’ll see! I think I’m more keen on getting a NAS for storage at this point.
Apple isn’t losing here. Eu is forcing them to make better phones.
These changes go against Apple’s business model and practices. Forcing USB C will mean they will probably try to add some bullshit software check to their plug in devices so 3rd party hardware makers will once again be shut out. These practices allow Apple to tell their current consumers “don’t buy 3rd party stuff. It isn’t made well and won’t work on our incredible phones”. Will that get struck down in the EU again? Probably. Will they make a few billion dollars before it does? Absolutely.
Apple has purposefully avoided moving towards industry standards so they can keep everything in their control. For better or worse, it’s actually one if the biggest strengths of Apple products. I know if I buy an iPhone, it’s going to work great (until the battery goes), and any of their add on parts are also going to work great because they don’t have to design drivers for the 400 different options out there. But that same practice inherently leads to these sort of anti-consumer decisions. Where a decision goes from keeping-in-their-wheelhouse to have-them-by-the-balls.
I will never forgive them for killing the headphone jack—but I at least understand the business model behind it. Samsung’s decision to follow suit likewise makes sense.
As for the other manufacturers who jumped on the bandwagon for no reason other than that they saw the big kids do it—handicapping their devices with what is to many a dealbreaker issue, without offering their own line of wireless earbuds / headphones to capitalize off of—I can feel only pity and disdain.
so true, I won’t switch phone anytime soon, as my S10 still has the headphone jack and I dont want to buy new headphones for 70€+ just because their batteries are dying. (Also it is still running great)
I will never understand 1/8” jack wanters. Why not just get a dongle? If you want to listen and charge at the same time get one with passthrough. If you’re using a $500 pair of headphones use a good dac.
As the owner of probably a dozen pairs of nice corded headphones, what’s the big deal?
A dongle is one more thing to buy/break/get lost.
Yeah why would I want the clearly superior option instead of bandaid solutions…
What’s superior about not using a dongle?
Back when that was how I went around, the break point in the cable saved me a few times.
How would it not be? -I don’t need a dongle that I can lose. (You might never use your earphones with another device, but I do, so the dongle will need to get unplugged from the earphones at some point) -I can use earphones at the same time as charging. -A dongle is one more thing that can break. -I’m not stressing a port with something that it really wasn’t meant for
Also, when I have a headphone jack, I still have the option to use a dongle or bluetooth, so nothing is lost by having the port
I always just put it in my pocket. They make passthrough charging dongles, never had an issue with one.
How do you plug something not designed for your port into it though?
Apple didn’t get big by producing quality hardware.
That’s arguable but the biggest selling point for apple is the plug and play environment and ease of use.
Definitely fuck apple but the got some of it right.
Um, what? Apple makes shitty design decisions to manipulate their consumer base. These regulations prevent them from doing that. These regulations mean the consumers win. Apple still has branded braindead consumers, but at least they went be able to scam them on batteries headphones and chargers as easily.
Exactly the eu regulations force Apple to make better phones.
Please tell me that there’s a Lemmy community out there for EU memes.
based EU
Unfortunately “USB-C” means nothing. It just describes what type of connector to use.
You just said it means nothing, then explained what it means. Why is it unfortunate that apple will need to put UBC C on the single device that still doesn’t have it FROM THEIR OWN LINEUP.
I mean its gpod enough,no? Tp be able to force apple to not use proprietary charging. And i assume data will also be a thing on their products, whether or not it uses the full speed capabilities of usb c dpesnt seem to matter.
Last I read was that apple was going to throttle their usb-c ports being used with non-apple blessed cables. And those cables are supposed to be pretty spendy, as they’re going to be “apple taxed”, <cough> I mean certified as apple is calling it. I hope the EU puts the smack down on them for trying to create such a loophole in interoperability requirements.
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That reeks of anti-trust, so much so I think the US would even jump in on that action.
Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. It’s pretty much the definition of unfair competition, I mean Apple makes cables and artificially hampers competitors cables unless they pay some money?
Maybe the fines are too low so far if they test us like that.
“USB-C” really only means “that flat oval shaped connector” and absolutely nothing more. The plug and cable and connected devices define what USB standard is used. You can deliver anything from “charging only USB 2.0 low power” to USB 4 with 240 W charging and 80Gbps data transfer including 8K@60 DisplayPort tunneling via USB-C.
Still better than: “Can you borrow me your charging cable? Oh, you got USB-C. Well shit!”
What annoys me is when people say “Do you have an iPhone charger?” when really they mean a cable.
Almost as bad as people calling USB-B a “printer cable”.
I use USB-B all the time (fightsticks) and still call them printer cables lmao
Yes, USB-C only describes the physical connector, but unless Apple somehow insists on giving users a more shitty experience when using USB-C they are kind of forced to support a reasonable standard for data transfer and charging. We probably won’t get 240W charging or anything close, but we also won’t see a degradation compared to lightning.
It’s also a proprietary standard that needs to be licensed. They’ve basically handed the USB organization a complete monopoly over smartphones. I know there is no suitable open source option that can replace USB but it’s still far from ideal. Maybe for the next step in furtherance of hardware freedom we should also be funding the development of a proper open source alternative, or campaign for USB to be open sourced.
“Your honor, the apple vision pro was specifically designed to be used inside a small sailing ship.”
Apple basically invented USB-C
You are confusing USB C to Thunderbolt (which has adopted USB C)
Nope, Apple participated in the creation of the USB-C standard, with a pretty big role in it apparently https://9to5mac.com/2015/03/14/apple-invent-usb-type-c/
I mean, there are a lot of “ifs” in that article but I don’t feel like discussing that out so I’m accepting that issue. Even if they were the inventors they were very reserved using it (apart from their new Thunderbolt ports) and in (tech) history the credit often doesn’t go to those who created a thing, but to those who made it popular.
I mean, Apple went all in with USB-C in their 2016 MacBooks Pro. It was a very bold move and very early, and I’m sure it made USB C more popular as suddenly there was a need for USB C accessories. Apple always made moves like these. Removing the CD ROM drive, the Floppy disk etc. Everyone think of “lightning” in phones, but that was invented when there was only mini USB, and Apple wanted something smaller, and pluggable from whenever side (like USB C now). I don’t think Apple kept using Lightning to be “different”, but because its clients already have a lot of lightning stuff at this point (like me). I’m happy that Apple is moving (or forced to move) to USB C in their mobile phones, but just because at this point I have already USB C stuff. I’m glad they stuck with Lightning these last years. Anyway, I don’t care, but there’s just this meme that Apple wants to be different and create issues, but as a 15+ years Apple user after being a pc user from the early 90s I don’t feel like this is true.
I mean, I kinda know these struggles from when I was sowly replacing my Micro USB stuff by USB C out of comfort. But that phase went by and now I’m happy to have a plug for almost everything… And Lightning always kept me from considering Apple products as I didn’t want to have yet another plug.
