• barsquid@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        I guess we’ll have to consider other factors, then. Like which one is promising to be a dictator, Blood Libeling Haitians, and promising to deport millions.

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            1 month ago

            Oh, I have already considered. I want the one that is not all but promising to industrial genocide immigrants (what do you think mass deportation is?), guaranteeing women lose more rights, guaranteeing LGBT people lose more rights.

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              The US government (the red and blue party who have been cycled in power for a century) engage and has a long history of engaging in fascist practices. Such as sending billions in aid or selling weapons to far-right governments (israel) or dictatorship (saudi arabia), the creation of a dystopian mass surveillance system capable of peeping at the average person at any give time, or the historical involvement in false flag operations like the bombing of piazza fontana.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_Fontana_bombing#Political_theories_of_responsibility_for_the_bombing

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                Wow you must think pretty much every first world nation is fascist then. It takes more than what you’re saying to be fascist. Far right governments existed before fascism , and while America is far from progressive, it’s not really fascist either.

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                  Sadly that’s the reality of the world we live in. Name a single first world nation in the world that isn’t ruled by corrupted politicians or that isn’t a police state ready to beat people at the first occasion.

                  While the policies of modern states may not be as violent and radical as that of fascist regimes from the past keep in mind that never in history nations had so much control and influence over people. Mass surveillance is something hitler or mussolini would have dream of.

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            Well you’re going to end up with one of the two so you can either pick the shinier of the two turds or you can vote to kill yourself. Or you can abstain and by doing so also vote to kill yourself.

            If we had a better option we’d be on it. We don’t. This isn’t a complex issue. Trump will destroy America, destroy America’s economy and future, and destroy Palestine completely. Harris will give us more of the status quo. This isn’t even a decision. We can worry about the next steps after we’ve defused the bomb ticking away in front of us. There is no other argument that can be made.

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              If we had a better option we’d be on it. We don’t.

              Plenty of options that you are not even considering because you are victim of propaganda. Bombs don’t tick watch the combat footage videos from ukraine or gaza.