• DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    I have nothing to hide: takes lock off front door, removes pin from phone, tells everyone who asks pin to debit card, accepts all cookies automatically, fills out invasive surveys for vouchers.

  • Toinsane2b@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Privacy… who gave you that private info in the first place?

    Is it your bank account # or the banks? Is it your ss# or the governments Is it your email address or Google’s?

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    15 hours ago

    If you give your data to companies, they’ll sell it to the government, circumventing legal processes that are supposed to protect against warrantless spying.

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    18 hours ago

    “I want convenience and I have nothing to hide, so I’m willing to give my data away.”

    Ok, but other people aren’t.

    Your vote affects other people.

    It’s great that your needs are met but people other than you will be hurt by this.

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      16 hours ago

      This is one of my greatest issues with my fellow citizens. They really don’t care about others, not even a little bit, when taken as a whole.

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      19 hours ago

      A meme is a thing thats shared, so this becomes a meme when it’s posted to share with others.

      The hell do YOU think a meme is?

      • InFerNo@lemmy.ml
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        A continuously adapted and shaped image, text or video that gets shared relentlessly.

        If something keeps getting shared unchanged, I wouldn’t actually consider it a meme, only if it’s altered. Otherwise I would just call it a viral post or video or something.

        Actually, it’s pretty hard to define a meme now that I try to think about it…

    • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world
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      Memes and jokes should have a basis in reality or they’ll get shit on for being dumb. I know what a meme is. This was shit 🤷‍♂️

      If I post shitty right wing memes do I get a free pass or does it end up in the right can’t meme?

      • Obinice@lemmy.world
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        16 hours ago

        Do you think people wanting privacy is somehow a political stance? Even more so, a… leftist political stance?

        Do tories not mind being spied on by their everything providers? xD

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    Meh. Pseudo-wisdom.

    The wealthy rule with or without your information. They did just fine before the advent of scraping every data point about you off the internet, your phone, or card swipe. Your info today is just another datapoint in some company’s portfolio to be bought and sold.

    Authoritarian governments get that way to protect wealth and power. It’s not your personal information that matters as much as what you say that matters. If you cannot be safe in expressing dissent and keep that private, then you’ve lost.

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        Yeah, tactical information. Locations of troops, resources, roads, bridges, opposition location, etc etc.

        Not what I bought at the store.

        Let’s not conflate the two.

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          All information is tactical information. Every bit of additional information strengthens control.

          Knowing what every citizen buys from the store is an authoritarian government’s wet dream.

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            Stop changing the subject to make yourself right.

            You said “war” first, then you changed to “authoritarian governments.”

            Pick one.

            Don’t double down on your absolutist answer.

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    The first part is true. Why would you want corporations knowing about you. But the government part doesn’t make sense. Why should your data be kept from the government? The government is the one organization I trust with my data because they hold records on every single citizen and have no monetary incentive to sell or misuse it.

    My data in this case being stuff like Name, Address, workplace, family, medical history, employment history, friends.

    Stuff I wouldn’t want the government knowing would be my hobbies, my chatlogs, my search history. If they want that they should get a warrant.

    I’m OK with the government buying/collecting and using stuff like location data if it’s anonymized. I understand this stuff is needed to see general trends in the population and plan accordingly.

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      20 hours ago

      What she is talking about is the data the Chinese government collects about its people like where you go when, who you meet, what you buy, what you talk about, who you’re friends with, if you are pregnant or not, etc.

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        Or what the NSA collects about Americans… like where you go when, who you meet, what you buy, what you talk about, who you’re friends with, if you are pregnant or not, etc.

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          It’s what decisions are made with that data that’s the concern. A lot of “privacy advocates” believe that society can exist with the government not knowing anything about their population. I can’t think how:

          • a transport service can operate without knowing where people go and when
          • consumer advocacy can work without knowing what people will buy
          • what needs to be addressed in society without knowing what the issues are
          • what to educate people on unless you find out what they don’t know
          • a health service can adapt to the needs of aging populations without good fertility data

          You’re right, all this data can be used against someone for malicious reasons and like in the China example it’s easier to locate dissonance by listening. But evil can be done without data collection, it’s impossible to do good without it.

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            19 hours ago

            You don’t need personalized data to do those things. You can just count how many people use the bus instead of checking for every person where they are going when and why.

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              I agree that aggregate data is the best way to improve things for the most number of people, you can’t help every single person, but also knowing the edge cases helps you find out things you don’t know.

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      The government is the one organization I trust with my data because they hold records on every single citizen and have no monetary incentive to sell or misuse it.

      My government buys my raw fucking web traffic from my service provider.

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      19 hours ago

      What about when a government decides that you must wear a special armband for being Jewish or Roma or gay?

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    Privacy has nothing to do with the fascist or autoritive state. Nonsense stuff.

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      It seems you have not lived in a fascist or autoritive state yet so you didn’t experience it, good for you.