Hello everyone! I know that Linux GUI advanced in last few years but we still lack some good system configuration tools for advanced users or sysadmins. What utilities you miss on Linux? And is there any normal third party alternatives?
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I generally don’t miss anything graphical, once I learn how to do something from the cli I rarely feel the need to do it graphically anymore as it’s usually a lot slower
The obvious one would be Photoshop and paint.net of course but krita does the trick
I maybe need to correct my post. I am talking about system utilities like Device Manager or something else.
Why would I want gui for those things? CLI is often a better interface. Being able to grep lsusb rather than scanning a gui for an entry is much better. It’s easier to pipe to an email as well. Screenshots don’t allow copy/paste…
As a newcomer to CLIs, GUI are great because you don’t need to know what you’re looking for. I can just open the devices window, and they’re all there, with most of the extra hardware stuff that’s not actually a real device already cleaned out.
To do the same with a CLI would take me 10 minutes of looking up what the hardware commands are, 5 minutes figuring out flags, and 30 minutes researching entries to see if they’re important. Even just a collapsible list would make that last step so much easier. And no, I can’t grep for what I need, because I don’t know what I need, I just know something in there is important with a vague idea of what it might look like.
Once I figure that all out for one thing, the best I can do is write that to a notes file so I don’t need to search so far next time, but there’s a good chance that I’ll need a different combination of commands next time anyway.
Not hating on CLIs, just wishing I could figure out how to use them faster.
👆 exhibit A of why Linux can be difficult for newcomers
Hmm, what does lsusb do?
Lshw, lsusb, etc and grep do that
I’m willing to entertain the possibility that the linux world may be lacking in some things, but I’m pretty sure “configuration tools for sysadmins” is not one of them.
Maybe tangential but this reminded me of how much I hate setting up systemd timers/services. I refuse to accept that creating two files in two different directories and searching online for the default timer and service templates is an okay workflow over simply throwing a cron expression next to the command you want to run and being done with it. Is there really no way we can have a crontab-equivalent that virtually converts into a systemd backend when you don’t need the extra power? I feel like an old person that can’t accept change but it’s been a decade and I’m still angry.
This is a configuration declaration abstraction issue. Systemd timers and services are more like primitives.
In NixOS, we have an abstraction that allows simple declaration of a service and timer that runs some script.
As an example, I use this to export my paperless for backup daily in a way that is safe (paperless itself cannot run during that time, guaranteed by systemd) and simple:
(Even without NixOS domain knowledge you should be able to follow what’s going on here.)
All that’s needed in order to cause a systemd timer to be created for this service is to declare the
startAt = "daily";at the bottom.I did this for awhile…
https://github.com/systemd-cron/systemd-cron-next
If I remember whatever chef script I was blowing out mucked up something enough I ended up ditching it and manually rebuilding the timers as sysd units.
Even as someone who likes systemd since trying to teach init is pretty uniquely awful, I still have a load of one a year cron jobs I just use a BSD box for.
A GUi for SystemD
With the ever increasing complexity of systemd, the GUI will quickly get in par with Firefox in lines of code 😂
Setting per game frame limits and undervolting AMD GPUs is a lot more complicated than on Windows
LACT and Mangohud can do that pretty well
This
My Linux experience has been command line training. Now I avoid GUI stuff like the plague if I can help it.
A decent GUI LDAP client.
Yes, I know, I can use slapcat and all… But holy hell, I’m tired of writing basic LDAP files to populate a new domain. And, no, I really don’t want to spin up a webserver just to run a web based GUI that I NOW have to ensure is locked down.
oh… that look tits! Thank you!
Found this not so long ago and it literally made me sad I don’t manage an LDAP anymore!
Based on the docs, it should work with LDAP, but is focused on AD. I really only need it for initial create and whatnot, so I’m gonna give it a whirl, and hopefully, doesn’t let me down.
If not, I’ll need to git gud with go, and do some PR’s :)
afterburner. i’m unable to oc my nvidia gpu :(
LACT. Though I don’t know if it can OC Nvidia, Nvidia support is quite new.
til about this one, nice. i wish discoverability for linux software was better.
Same here. I’m using CorrCTRL for my 6800XT and the VRAM OC is not working properly, will give LACT a try
Chances are that it doesn’t work there either. What actually does the OC is the kernel; the GUIs merely write the desired values into the correct files in
/sys.I’ve just got to try it and you’re right. VRAM OC is also broken with LACT though at first it seemed like it worked and I even managed one full bebchmark run in CP2077 but my PC started heavily artifacting and crashed on 2nd run.
Well then it sounds like it works just fine but your chosen value isn’t stable.
I can do 2150MHz fast timings on Windows (2000MHz is default). But on Linux even +1MHz is unstable with CoreCTRL and anything above +2MHz is unstable with LACT
I usually just feed my questions into three different LLMs plus ddg with site:reddit and then check consensus. As good as it gets.
But then last time I’ve managed to discover DeadBeeF through IRC.
I have Emacs, and I have my NixOS configuration. That’s all the GUI system configuration I need.
Why use NixOS, when you could just use emacs?
My Emacs needed a bootloader.
That should be our new slogan:
NixOS: Your Emacs’ bootloader.
One thing I kind of miss is autohotkeys on windows. It was relatively easy to do things like set keyboard keys to act as mouse keys. I did that once when I was getting over tendonitis.
These days I have a keyboard with mouse keys on it and a trackball also with mouse keys. I can use the middle button on the trackball and scroll with it, but I can’t use the middle button on the keyboard and scroll with the trackball, which would be more ergonomic for me. Haven’t figured that one out yet.
That said, I mostly don’t miss GUI stuff. I use a tiling window manager and command line utilities to do most things on my system. Its kind of primitive I guess, but the benefit is it works exactly the same on remote systems, headless servers, etc.
I have replaced autohotkeys with https://github.com/espanso/espanso
It does everything I need it to, although I am not sure if it can do the mouse button things you need
Given that windows administration is powershell these days they kind of are similar.
Windows is missing so much in their guis abilities (like copy text) that I wonder what there is you are missing.
Edit: Although this is not an admin function, one thing that bothers me about windows, A LOT is that the file explorer does not show free space while I am in the current directory. Dolphin will do it even for SMB shares. Also you can click the drop down and examine all drives right there instead of have to back to the left and ruining your view in explorer. And don’t get me started about how you can’t split views in Windows explorer. This is just one everyday task where windows GUI is lacking in features even though it is not an admin tool.
HWMonitor / cpuID / cpuz. One of the frustrating things is not having good driver level support for certain mbs with system monitoring utilities, so you can’t see fans and some cpu stats (like per ccd temps etc on Ryzen processors). Specifically things like it87 boards
HardInfo2 may be interesting to you
I’ll check this out, thanks! I really just need to figure out how to build in the driver level stuff for my chipset. Even this I think just pulls from lm-sensors which needs the low level drivers to populate the appropriate files to read from.
It seems impossible to set display scaling from the command line. Anything that fixes that would be nice.
What is your DE? On KDE Plasma Wayland you can just use
kscreen-doctor output.HDMI-A-1.scale.2to set it to 200%And it seem like CLI not GUI issue :)
Debian + GNOME. I’m extremely new to Linux so excuse my ignorance. I searched around the topic a while finding some commands that didn’t work and others having the same issue. If you know different that would be much appreciated!
If you are talking about fractional scaling it is not available (probably only available as an experimental setting on debian??). Otherwise, does this work https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/HiDPI#GNOME ?
It didn’t unfortunately :/
One of my favorite things about Gnome is that almost anything can be customized via CLI with dconf or gsettings. Which is great until you encounter one of the few things you can’t customize, like displays.
Well KDE had this awesome process management tool, I think it was called
System Monitoror something. You could tune process priorities with IO and CPU. They deprecated the tool though, I think because nobody wanted to port it to QT6EDIT: It’s not System Monitor. I can’t recall the name, but there used to be an app that let you set niceness / priorities of your processes.
System Monitor is very much still alive, and I’m pretty sure it is updated to Qt6. I was using it only yesterday on Plasma 6…
You’re right. I can’t recall the other utility’s name. System Monitor is fantastic, but I just wish I could set the niceness and all that like you could on the old utility.
That would indeed be a nice feature. I’m sure they would welcome the suggestion!
a nice feature 👀
Took a while, but someone did eventually notice!
I’ve been using linux for over 25 years and I don’t understand this post. One of the strengths of linux is that you don’t need a gui to do sysadmin.
I think I’m 30 years in, and I came to mention I haven’t used the GUI since ~97.
For sysadmin stuff? Or for daily use?
