Good Lord, so much marketing about “next-gen” yet 60 still ain’t a guarantee 🤦♂️
30 fps wouldn’t be bad if its consistent and stable, have you ever played on a low end PC at 15-22 fps?
I grew up breaking games to make them run under minimum settings. Subnautica has (or at least had) a Dev menu or some shit that you could make the game look like utter arse.
Got me like 18fps at 480p, worth it #playable for younger me.
If I get under 100fps at 4k now I’m unhappy. How times change.
Lol, same, I’ve played some games at such abysmal resolution it became a testament of how good the art direction was, making it possible to recognize things amidst that jumble of pixels.
Funny how we grow accustomed with what we have. I was hyper-aware of my disk usage when I had a tiny HDD, nowadays I’m like “Why am I low on storage???”, then I go check and find 200GB of junk I no longer need on my downloads folder. Whoops.
Yeah I have, for a looong while. I understand a stable framerate is much better than a “high” one, but like, were not talking about a “Low-end” PC here, we’re talking about the current, still marketed generation here.
How come 30’s still the target when all the marketing is talking about how powerful it is and how amazing the upscaling is? And it’s a fixed target on top of all that, like common man
Copium. We’re well beyond the days when anything under 60 FPS is not cheap and lazy craftsmanship.
the thing is “a pc” is very vague.
you are probably talking about a pc several generations behind, in that case its awesome that the game even runs.
My 144 hz monitor has ruined my ability to enjoy normal refresh rates in games. I need a support group for this ffs.
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fps.Fixed that for ya 👍👍
It just looks dirty like that.
I have to assume they’re targeting 30fps because that would be using all the bells and whistles like raytracing and running at 4k on the consoles; which are unlikely to be able to achieve 60fps or higher with all that shit on.
And, as they have done with literally every single GTA since 3: It likely won’t release on PC at the same time. It will come 1-2 full years later and when it does, will have more features and run at a higher frame rate.
30 fps
Lol, what kind of bullshit is this? 30 fucking fps. Unplayable garbage.
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If there’s is a reason for making it that way, it’s not really dumb.
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I hope so! I’m interested in buying the single player game, and have absolutely zero interest in the online experience.
I feel like im the only person in the world who isnt excited for this game. I dont care for GTA, they just feel super clunky and sloppy to play. (I know, no one asked.)
You’re not the only one, friend. The only thing I care about is what sort of pricing hijinks they get up to, which could have industry-wide consequences.
Spend 10 minutes trying to negotiate a doorway or ladder, and you call this clunky?!
Yeah, no one plays GTA for the gameplay mechanics, they play them for the RP or the chaos, or both.
I played GTA IV mostly because the mechanics were fucking awesome. The driving was incredible for an open world game like that. Euphoria was dope.
The first seconds of the GTA V gameplay trailers hinted that they neutered the driving. Then they announced the driving was ported from a Midnight Club game and that was the last nail in the coffin for me.
Tried the game once at a friend’s house and the gameplay feel was so shit I never played it again. I knew I’d always be distracted by it.
Like, I play clunky games like Arma 3 and DS2, but neither bother me to the amount GTA does. Maybe I just dont like the core gameplay or somethin.
I feel like GTA is definitely more clunky than those two games. Might be because the animation feels wrong for some reason.
Bro if 30 fps is their target, I guarantee Switch 2 is going to get a version of this
I played Oblivion at 8fps, bring it on
Always looking down to get more FPS while walking around towns…
I know that feel bro
If they intend to charge for GTA VI online, I will never play it
I already never intend to play it. I only care about single player. Hopefully this means the game is cheaper.
It’ll be a healthy decision
Honestly I’m fine with this as long as the graphics justifies the framerate.
I’m not. I don’t have a tricked out PC to wait LONGER THAN MY SON HAS BEEN ALIVE for a 30 frames AAA game.
That isn’t AAA. It’s pure corporate greed.
This is going to be TARGETED 30fps for consoles…
Your overpriced pc will probably go above that. Calm down
You calm down. Arrogant prick.
no u
It’s comment threads like this that just show how absolutely clueless G*mers are.
We’ll get 60 and above on pc a while later anyway. Also the sold separately thing is probably just like they did with RDR2 where you could get everything or just the multiplayer part of the game, which I personally think is fine.
say it with me
EN SHITTI FICATION
First off, that fake word sucks. Second, it doesn’t really apply here anyway.
it does
rockstar like any ultracapitalistic brand loves money so much they’d do anything.
30fps…because switch2…because money.
i expect their onlinestuff to be prime ea lootbox and ai upsell shit. get a yacht for 1 million.
and again a like gta5 and 4…a story so superficial it will intrigue all the 15yr old alphamales and ppl that never grew up.
why dont you just join this milc metaverse stuff? more enshittification without the extra hurdles.
GTA IV had a superficial story? I certainly did not feel that way about that game. Niko is the best protagonist they’ve ever had; a great protagonist in general.
It makes a lot of sense to at least ask the question if you should split this game into two parts when each part has a very different pool of customers. I don’t think they’ll do it, because they want people in the online component to be present for multiplayer in the first place, but it makes sense to ask the question.
If this game is going to have issues running at 60 FPS on the PS5, I don’t think 30 FPS is for the benefit of the Switch 2. Even if it was, Switch 2 is a platform that people will want to play GTA on. The tech that Rockstar is trying to push forward comes at the cost of frame rate. That’s not making it shittier; it’s making different trade-offs.
I don’t do modern consoles, do people consider 30fps acceptable?
Very rare to see 30fps games on PS5 that don’t have a performance option to get to 60.
Especially action games.
Not me. I think it’s insane to ship a PS5 game that performs that poorly even on non-“pro” consoles
From what i have seen, 60fps is acceptable for High Settings, 30fps is acceptable when Ray tracing is turned on
No, 40 and 50 look good enough though, idk why people like 30 as a standard
It’s a number that divides easily into 120, which mattered more for old TVs, and it’s far enough over the threshold to trick our minds into seeing a bunch of still frames as a moving thing.
Yes, 30fps is fine, and expected even if you’re also expecting ultra realistic graphics. This expectation that people have of games being 60 fps and being stupid realistic is nonsense. You want realistic graphics and reflections when a game is first released, your gonna get 30 fps. And honestly, you can hardly tell the difference anyway.
Edit: Always expect the downvotes when I say this. The people in gaming subs, almost never understand how games are developed. Just demand without understanding the limitations of hardware and software.
Some games go to 120fps and are actually realistic.
GTA was never about realism, it just had a huge open world with tons of things to do.
None that I’ve ever seen. It takes a lot of work to get good graphics even for 60 fps, a lot of optimization, that depending on the type of game, might be very expensive and time consuming to do.
The majority of people playing don’t know the difference. I am shocked there won’t be a 60fps mode, i can’t remember the last time I’ve been forced to play at 30fps outside of playing older games locked to it.
It’s not shocking, when you consider the level of graphical fidelity they’ll be pushing on screen.
The more detail you add, the lower the framerate, on any given hardware. They will be balancing “oh my God!” level graphics, with playable frame rates. The fact they’re shooting for such a relatively low frame rate, shows how hard they’re pushing the hardware.
I would imagine the game is at the highest possible graphic fidelity for consoles, and also the scale of the game will have a factor.
Remember. Gta V came out 12 years ago. It didn’t run at 60fps on any console until the PS5
Yeah, i know, for myself I didn’t really get to experience it until 2016 when I built myself a PC with mid range specs and then when I got the ps4 pro in like 2018. I say it’s one of those things where once you get to have it, you never wanna go back.
Yeah. I have a PS5 and I heard gta 6 won’t launch on PC right away, but then I heard it is coming to PC lol. So idk. I’m almost hitting 40 and playing on my couch and tv has been more fun lately. But sometimes I just know a game will run much better on my PC.
What I should do is put my current build into a super small box with an external PSU and just install steam os and hook it up to my tv
RDR2
A stable 30 fps is perfectly playable for most people, yes
Absolutely not. I don’t remember the last time I played a game without 60fps performance option on my PS5
Same, even on my old GPU I’d adjust quality until I got stable 60, otherwise no thanks.
Most don’t, the people who say they don’t realize it probably also say that “there’s no difference between 1080p and 4k!”
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For most people the further they sit away from a screen the less they are going to notice it. And console gamers play on a tv from the couch. Of course if you show them a 60fps version after they played in 30fps they will notice but most people don’t understand why that is and thus not care. Like how many people watch movies with motion smoothing on since they don’t see that it looks smoother than the movies in the cinema.
Rockstar can get away with this since the vast majority of GTA player will be mainstream casual gamers that only have fifa/madden and CoD in their gaming collection.
Hey, maybe this time the script kiddies won’t be able to sabotage people’s SINGLEPLAYER GAMES!
Maybe it’ll also actually get sp dlc?
