Saskatchewan’s premier says he’ll use the notwithstanding clause to override a court injunction that has paused the province’s new pronoun policy for students. But a professor says the clause is meant to be used as a tool of last resort.

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      It needs to be stated clearly every time this comes up:

      The notwithstanding clause TAKES AWAY RIGHTS, IT DOESN’T GIVE THEM. Using it doesn’t give “parents rights,” it takes away children’s charter rights.

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        Using the Notwithstanding clause is an admission by the government that it’s trying to pass legislation that goes against the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

        It should at the very least require a full explanation and apology by the Premier, as to why he felt citizens’ rights were unimportant.

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          The explanation is well understood. A segment of the population believe that a change in one’s identity is a symptom of mental illness, and as such see it as the duty of educators to open up about the signs and symptoms they are seeing, just as they would for any other illness. The contention is that the other segment of the population see changing identity as being a healthy expression of the human experience.

          The Premier does not understand that there is a violation of rights. From his point of view, it is an illness not properly recognized, and is no different than letting it be known that a child is sick with a fever – something that is expected to be shared under what is considered to be for the best interests of the child.

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            The Premier does not understand that there is a violation of rights.

            If this was true, they could pass the legislation without the notwithstanding clause.

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              No, he fully understands that, from his point of view, the illness is misclassified – in other words, it is not considered an illness by all. This is no doubt a Charter violation when changing identity is not considered an illness by the courts. Hence the preemptive notwithstanding call. But he understands it to be an illness, and therefore no rights are violated from his point of view.

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        There are two sides to every coin. It takes away federal rights, but gives provincial rights.

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          No, it doesn’t take away or give rights to provincial or federal governments. They don’t have charter rights in the first place, only individuals have charter rights.

          The notwithstanding clause permits the province to override people’s charter rights. That may be justified sometimes, but it shouldn’t be framed as anything else. It’s removing rights, not granting them.

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      If this were the US, “land of the free”, I wouldn’t be so sure. Maybe I’m just cynical, but they’ve been removing that right from students in schools for a while now.

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    There really needs to be a consequence for using the notwithstanding clause or otherwise violating charter rights. Time and time again, populist politicians violate them to stoke votes, gain political momentum, then many years down the road, lose in court and their policies are reversed (paid by a future government with tax dollars). It’s usually not as egregious as this, but it’s a constant thing. Look at the public pay freeze that was just reversed in Ontario.

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      There really needs to be a consequence for using the notwithstanding clause or otherwise violating charter rights.

      Why would the provinces sign on to that? The notwithstanding clause was a concession offered to the provinces in exchange for signing the constitution. If it were marred in all kinds of conditions, they would have simply walked away. Quebec walked away anyway. Imagine the nightmare we’d have if all other provinces did the same.