• PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
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    That’s not an “outburst,” that is simply being open and transparent. What does a things that I really respect about Zelensky is how open, transparent and honest he is when discussing national issues. He has done a lot to rain in corruption, it obviously the resistance against the Russian invasion.

    Western leaders would do well to take notice of what he has done and to heed the warnings about outside influences corrupting their own populations and politics.

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      If Xi slightly raised his voice, it would be the end of the world but when Zelensky throws a fit in public, surrounded by world leaders, it’s fine.

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            No, I’m sure it was all perfectly safe and a very cool and normal thing to do. It was a bit different from ‘slightly raising his voice’ though which is what you originally said.

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              You’re taking things out of context.

              But replying to your comment, I understand your point of view, demonstrations of power for the sake of defending national interests are only fine if the US does it. Did you know they transported a NUKE to a place near Cuba recently? So cool, right?

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        One is a leader of a totalitarian state, the other is fighting against a numerically superior enemy who throws out nuclear threats Like they’re Pokemon cards. You really can’t compare the two.

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    I kind of surprised at the outburst happening in the first place. His Western relations have been slick as hell up until this point and are probably the most impressive thing about the war effort you can attribute just to him personally.

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      I mean, are you surprised? Russia’s military spending is pitiful and their equipment is held together by hopes and dreams and corruption.

      Yet, the largest, most advanced, and most expensive military in the world (by far) can’t find a way to beat them. Ukrainian people are losing their lives every day the war wages on.

      This is, of course, all while the West is ignoring the treaty they signed for Ukrainian denuclearization that said that American troops would be sent in the event of an invasion.

      If I were Zelenskiy, I’d be livid. I’m impressed by how composed he’s been thus far.

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        Dude, it’s not the United States fighting against Russia here. It’s the Ukraine military, which is held together on a shoestring budget with donations from NATO. The Ukrainian armed forces military structure is based on Soviet doctrine, with large parts still reflect the Soviet era force structure. Little has changed since then, although they have adopted in NCO structure like you see in NATO forces.

        However, many reports out of NATO in the United States have pointed out that Ukraine armed forces still have a long ways to go before they can be ready for NATO integration. Not to mention that the huge variety of equipment that they are currently running, which includes massive amounts of Soviet era weaponry armor and aircraft, on top of a hodgepodge of NATO equipment simply exacerbates their issues.

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          The only reason Ukraine is still a country is because of NATO intervention. This stretches from early US intelligence informing Ukraine of the invasion to NATO equipment to NATO training. This war is basically a proxy war between NATO and Russia, with Ukraine stuck in the middle.

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            It’s a proxy war fully initiated by Russia. They did the same bullshit to us in Vietnam, and they stuck their dick into Afghanistan back in the 1980s. Same shit sandwich, different decade.

            If Russia doesn’t want to get wrecked, they are free to withdraw anytime they like. No one is forcing Russia to invade another country and to murder thousands of people.