Know what else will be dangerous for potentially 100 years, maybe longer? Letting Russia win/hold territory. Like, folks, it’s war. The front is already riddled with mines, many in strange places because of the dam wash out.
Is this crappy and dangerous for civilians? Yes. But come on, Russian occupiers are literally committing genocide and mining the shit out of stuff right now. At least if cluster munitions help end this war then the cleanup can begin and things can start to get less dangerous.
Did the US commit a genocide when they invaded Afghanistan?
Well yeah but we don’t talk about that.
We just talk about the genocides committed by the baddies.
By this logic literally anything is justified if it stops Russia.
Shortsighted.
Two things:
- Russia is using cluster munitions
- Russia started the war
I’d like to think that Ukraine could do better than Russia…
But then I guess they’re getting the cluster munitions from the US, so maybe not?
The US cluster munitions have a lower failure rate than the Russian versions, and also aren’t camouflaged. Also, it’s Ukraine’s choice. They probably made a difficult decision concluding they can save more lives by using them now.
It’s the US’s choice to hand them out and puts the US’s allies (Canada, etc.) in an awkward position because the treaty we signed gives us the international obligation to sanction anyone using cluster munitions.
It’s just difficult to fathom that the largest economy in the world with the greatest amount of military spending in the world doesn’t have enough manufacturing capacity to build more normal bombs than a failed Russian state.
It’s just difficult to fathom that the largest economy in the world
Using GDP PPP as measure, the size of China’s economy surpassed that of the USA as far back as 2014. It is currently about 25% larger.
- Not a reason to fuck up Ukraine for the next 100 years
- Not a reason to fuck up Ukraine for the next 100 years
Russia should be held accountable in both cases.
For me the difference is using cluster munitions in defense of your country. It’s not by choice, it’s by necessity. Like most nuclear powers will use nuclear weapons in existential defense. Rightfully in my opinion.
Imagine nuking yourself to own the Russians lol
“Warcrimes are okay when the other side does them too.”
Russia is using cluster munitions
Ukraine on the other hand has been using cluster munitions against civilians for quite a while now:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/07/06/ukraine-civilian-deaths-cluster-munitions
