• Rom@lemmy.world
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    Fascist rhetoric directly results in increased violence against minorities and LGBTQ+ people. To say they are “peaceful members of society not causing any harm to people” ignores the sharp rise in right-wing violence against marginalized people over the last decade. Do you really think Nazis openly calling for the eradication of trans people isn’t going to cause an increase in violence against those groups?

    Nazis calling for violence is Nazis starting the violence, responding in kind is not an escalation.

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      Responding with violence to levels of violence that are manageable and not yet a war will indeed lead to escalation of violence, and possibly a war, but that seems to be what you want, so you have an excuse to kill Nazis. Deescalation of violence should be the left wing mindset when confronted with violence, to try and bring down the violence with non violent means, and make the Nazis realise that gay and trans people aren’t so bad. Otherwise they are perfectly justified in calling left wing people cancel culture and sensitive. We should want to refute those claims, not enforce them.

      Why do they get to decide what you think?

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        Responding with violence to levels of violence that are manageable and not yet a war will indeed lead to escalation of violence

        Again, they have already escalated the violence. Again, responding in kind is not an escalation.

        Deescalation of violence should be the left wing mindset when confronted with violence, to try and bring down the violence with non violent means

        Right you go ahead and try to reason with a lunatic pointing a gun at you and your friends, let me know how that turns out.

        and make the Nazis realise that gay and trans people aren’t so bad

        Good fucking god I’m tired of this absolute lib shit. You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. And even if you could, it’s not our jobs as individuals to denazify Nazis. Right now all I care about is that Nazis are threatening my LGTBQ+ friends, so I’m going to defend my LGBTQ+ friends.

        Otherwise they are perfectly justified in calling left wing people cancel culture and sensitive.

        Who fucking cares. I don’t give a fuck what Nazis think about leftists and neither should you.

        Why do they get to decide what you think?

        What the fuck does this even mean? How the hell are Nazis deciding what I think?

        Nazi: “I am being a bigoted asshole.”

        Me: “You are a bigoted asshole.”

        Nazi: “HAHA I WIN, I HAVE JUST DECIDED WHAT YOU THINK! CHECKMATE!”

        Like seriously, what are you even talking about?

        Quit fucking defending Nazis.