The camera size is already huge in iPhone 14 Pro that it doesn’t sit well on MagSafe Duo Charger wishing that they figured out a way to at least keep the size to how it currently is but it looks like there’s no getting around it. It looks like it’s gonna be bigger than 45mm Apple Watch at this point.

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    I don’t think people get how the camera has to be raised, to support the external lenses better so they never shift. So many creatives use the cameras for professional work so this is a carrot to them.

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      I get that the camera bump is gonna be there (though it makes the phone top-heavy already) but I’m more concerned at the size of the camera since already eating up a lot of space at the back. Soon, it would be hard for magsafe accessories to attach as there’s less space for them. Right now, 14 pro doesn’t sit well over magsafe duo charger because the camera is touching the pad. If you notice, the Pro variant camera is the lowest across the series.

      In regards of the bump, I saw leaks that it’s gonna be as thick as an old iPhone.

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      That is entirely true. However if one makes form a priority over camera performance it does not count.

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    Just wait until they add yet another lens for 3D to shoot content for viewing on the Vison Pro! You don’t really think anyone is going to wear that thing in public? Or wear it to shoot video like that creepy dad in their promo? Nope. But you can bet they will be adding the cameras and sensors to the iPhone so you can shoot content for the VP on your iPhone while you’re out and about, then see it later while using the VP.

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    I just don’t understand why they don’t just make the phone thicker and have a flush camera. Does it really make such a difference?

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      The 14P (~200g, if I remember correctly, feels even heavier) is one of the heaviest phones I ever owned, especially compared to my 12 before it, but even compared to my Xs, which already felt heavy at the time. In the past I always agreed with statements of „just make the phone thicker“ for more battery, or to hide the bump. But with the 14P I cannot agree: just make the bump smaller an reduce weight.

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        I mean I agree about not making it thicker to flatten the back, but I have to disagree about making the camera smaller (if that means a sacrifice to quality. This is specifically a pro phone. Now admittedly, it’s not just for professionals and whether it deserves that name is up for debate. But the fact is, this is specifically meant to be the best. So imo, if you want something lighter, buy the lighter non-pro

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          So imo, if you want something lighter, buy the lighter non-pro

          I’d argue being lighter is a feature, and one that I’d personally be happy to pay a premium for. The original MacBook Air was something like a thousand dollars more expensive than the MacBook for example (and I bought/loved that MacBook Air).

          For example professional bicycles are usually hand laid carbon fibre. It costs a fortune and it’s worse than a metal frame in every way (except weight), but people still pay for it, because weight matters.

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            And you’re absolutely correct. Being light is a feature. It’s a feature of the non-pro. The fact is, putting more, better components in will make the phone heavier. And the point of the pro is to have more features and be the better phone. Unlike a racing bicycle which very specifically has to be light. And also unlike the MacBook Air which again, the entire purpose of which was to be thin and light. I completely agree that being light is a feature, just not here.

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          Instead of one small part of the phone being slightly thicker, a part where you hand doesn’t even touch and it genuinely doesn’t matter, you’d rather the entire phone be thicker, making it take up more space in you hand and pocket. Then you’d have to do something with all this extra space you’ve wasted, so the phone will have to get heavier and use more materials to make.

          And in return for worse ergonomics, cost, space efficiency, and overall aesthetics, all we get is a… smooth back? Which amounts to an ARGUABLY improved different aesthetic that affects less of the overall design than the thickness does? That sounds like the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals. That’s like putting square tires on a Jeep because it arguably matches the overall shape of the vehicle lol. Especially since most people have cases on their phones which could easily make up for the difference in thickness anyway.

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          What would you fill all that extra space with?

          Empty air? How is having empty air inside the phone better than having empty air outside the phone?

          A larger battery? So you can charge every second day instead of every day? I don’t think that’d be an improvement, it would almost certainly result in forgetting to charge your phone and you’d be more likely to have it go flat on you. Also batteries are extremely heavy.

          A silicone protective coating? Also known as a phone case. This is really the only one that makes sense, and you can already do it.

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            Bro how tf would a bigger battery result in it dying more often? What u smoking and where can I find

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              If you don’t need to charge your iPhone ever night, then you won’t charge it every night. And sometimes you’ll forget to charge it two nights in a row, and then your battery won’t last the day.

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    I have an iPhone 11 Pro. Had a worn down battery until a month ago.

    That is really a reason for upgrading. Four year old phone which frequently does not get through the day without a recharge.

    I did not upgrade. The camera bump on the current models made me not upgrading. I just do not like the camera bump. Looks ugly. Feels strange. I want the phone flat on a table.

    I did a battery swap on the 11 Pro. That should do for another two years. Lets see what are the options by then.

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    I wish they designed it so the camera sits flush to the backing and it sits better on magsafe, but looks like it’s still raised up.

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    I understand that the camera is a big reason for new iPhone sales but I could care less. The camera has met my expectations for several generations now. I hate how much weight it adds to the top of my phone. Makes it feel unbalanced in my hand.

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      but I could care less.

      So, you do care? Because there needs to be some level of caring present for you to be able to care less.

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      “I hate how much weight it adds to the top of my phone. Makes it feel unbalanced in my hand”

      I doubt it does. I just used a fulcrum to find the center of mass on my iPhone 13 Pro and it actually seems like the lower half of the iPhone is a bit heavier, which makes makes sense given the internals of the device. That being said it’s off center by like 1/8 of an inch at the most so it actually seems well balanced. If you made the camera smaller it’d make the phone LESS balanced than it is.

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        Doubt what? It’s not an opinion. I’m literally holding my iPhone right now and it is top heavy if you try to balance it in the center.

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          I doubt that your iPhone is noticeably top heavy, if even at all. It just doesn’t sound like a plausible design flaw that Apple would somehow miss. It’s just too easy to compensate for any weight added by the camera module with the much heavier components located below-center of the device, like the battery. I was curious though so I measured my iPhone 13 Pro with an identically sized camera module as the 14 and my phone is actually very slightly bottom heavy, but the margin is also so small there’s no way I or anyone else could actually tell without measuring.

          It might be more of a perceived effect than a physical one if anything. Like it feels top heavy because you can see the camera module but not the internal parts in the lower part of phone.

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            Nah, it’s top heavy for sure. My source is physics because like I said, I’m holding it in my hand right now and it won’t balance on center because the top is heavier. As to weather it’s noticeable, that is entirely subjective so I’m not sure how you think you can just say you don’t believe I’m feeling the way I’m feeling.

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              It’s not that I don’t believe that you feel like it’s top heavy, I just don’t believe that it actually is top heavy. Your claim sounded suspect but I gave you the benefit of the doubt and I used physics and math instead of my hand to measure my iPhone that currently has the largest camera module available on iPhones and it is conclusively not top heavy. Like I said you might perceive it as being top heavy but that doesn’t mean it actually is. You might also have a case that’s contributing to your balance issue, I wouldn’t know.