• Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Both sides need to be willing to have lasting peace in order for this to be a legitimate discussion. Notably Hamas has rejected the last ceasefire offer, after breaking the last agreement, and states plainly they do not want peace and will not stop until Israel is no more.

    Why are we hellbent on asking Israel to just sit and take it?

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      11 months ago

      Why are we hellbent on asking Israel to just sit and take it?

      Stop killing innocents =/= “sit and take it”

      If Israel had conducted this war in a reasonable fashion and actually focused on Hamas they wouldn’t be facing this criticism. 1,200 dead on October 7th. 20,000+ dead in Gaza. Isn’t this enough?

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        What do you think Israel should be doing to lower the number of innocent civilians killed?

        They’re already doing way more to prevent civilian deaths than most people would expect, conversely hamas goes out of their way to kill innocent civilians every chance they get.

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          Maybe not bomb hospitals and apartments? Funnel fleeing civilians through active combat zones? Maybe not force Palestinians off of their properties?

          Hamas is committing atrocities that are par for the terrorism course. We should t expect them to play by the rules.

          Isreal is a globally recognized and sanctioned government, committing genocide and war crimes.

          Both sides need to stop.

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          I want them to just fucking stop until they’ve figured out how to accomplish their purported mission without going full Holocaust, unless of course that is their mission. It’s their fucking job, not mine.

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        11 months ago

        Rockets are still shot at Israel. They had a fairly large barrage the other day. Will that stop under your cease fire?

        Or is it Israel ceases and Hamas fires?

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          11 months ago

          In other words: an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind and Israel is engaging in terrorist activity just the same and to a greater scale.

          But the other use is right, and it’s no surprise. Here’s a prime minister who’s been in power as long as Putin and a part of the same neoconservative right-wing nationalist bent as the puppeteers of Bush.

          Netanyahu and right-wing extremists in Israel have no interest in settling this. That was proven when a right-wing Israeli nationalist assassinated the former prime minister who sought to resolve the conflict in earnest.