You did everything right. Boot into the image that works, and then apply rpm-ostree rollback. This reverses the broken image and the working one, so you’ll boot into this one the next time you boot up until you change something in the order, e.g. by updating.

In the meantime, wait a day or so and then update again.

On what channel are you on? bazzite:latest or bazzite:stable?

Same. I still really love Gnome with my heart, but it just felt… inferior… compared to KDE 6.

Everything looked sharper, like if I had switched from 720p to 4k, I could access my hardware better (e.g. control the brightness of my monitor, etc.) and much more.

Androids home screen is just another app, and you can replace pretty much anything.
Your default phone caller app, camera app, and as mentioned the launcher. Even the default icon pack! I’ve already posted my Android customisation here, I’ll see if I can find it :)

Regarding backups: check out, if your WiFi router supports network sharing. If so, you can just plug in an USB or external drive and share it over your local network

For the Android home screen I can wholeheartedly recommend you Kvaesitso. It has a very similar workflow to Gnome, you will love it :)

Here’s my perspective. I’m exactly that kind of guy you mean.

As soon as someone mentions “immutable distro”, I get triggered and start shilling for Bazzite et al.

Why you might ask? Because I like using it, and because the guys behind it are chill dudes with a great vision and a lot of know-how.

I’m just a normal guy without IT skills. I can’t code myself, I can’t review someone’s else code, I can’t do anything.

But I wish I could.

The only thing I am able to is making it more well known.
If someone asks “What distro do you recommend for gaming?”, I’ll say “Bazzite”.

Someone else might say “Arch”, and another one “Tumbleweed”. Everyone likes their own thing, and everyone shills for something else :)

I really wish your theory was real, then I could make some $$$, but everything here is FOSS. The devs are just as broke as I am…

Usually only as long as I play games. After that, I shut it off. Why?

• I run Bazzite, which updates itself in the background, but needs a restart to complete
• It boots in seconds, because modern hard drives are crazy fast
• The standby-LED is annoying when I sleep

My laptop is usually on for a week, but I restart it from time to time, for the same reasons, and because devices need some sleep too! 😴

Fedora Atomic IS immutable. Rpm-ostree just layers (or hides) stuff on top of the already existing image. If you layer something, e.g. Nvidia drivers, you still download the same image everyone else uses, but basically compile the driver from fresh and put it on top. And that takes time. This is the reason using rpm-ostree to layer stuff is not recommended.

That’s why uBlue exists for example. It gives you a sane start setup, where all drivers are already built in into the image. And then you can either use the clean base and add your own stuff to create your own image, or use already great ones like Bluefin or Bazzite, where everything you want is already included.

Atomic just means that every process is either completed without errors, or not at all. This way, you don’t get an half updated and broken system for example in case you loose power. Happened to me quite a few times already, but never with Fedora Atomic.

Pretty much anything outside of /var/ (even /home/ is placed inside /var/) is read-only, and if you want to modify your install, you have to build your own image. Therefore, it is both immutable AND atomic.

That’s why I prefer the term “image based”

• You can still apply updates live, e.g. on Bazzite (Fedora Atomic) with the --apply-live tag (or however it’s spelled).
• The root partition isn’t read only per se, but you have to change the upstream image itself instead of the one booted right now. You can use the uBlue-Builder for example to make your own custom Bazzite spin just for you if you want.
• Both aren’t inherently secure or insecure. It’s harder to brick your system, yeah, for sure, but you can still fuck up some partitions or get malware. It’s just better because everything is transparently identifiable (ostree works like git), saved (fallback images), containerised and reproducible.
• And you can still install system software, e.g. by layering it via rpm-ostree. Or use rootful containers in Distrobox and keep using apt or Pacman in there.

FYI, the creators of Aurora/ Bazzite/ Bluefin are currently working on bootable CentOS stream based OCI images. This means, that you will get a LTS version, similar to Debian, but image based and WAY more slow paced.

My experience with uBlue has been flawless, but I don’t know if I would recommend it to an elderly person, because they might change a bit, and change is a stress factor for many people that age.

“Cloud native” means in this context, that the images are being built centrally by “the cloud” (in this case, it’s GitHub actions, but could be replaced by something else) and then the identical copies of the OS are distributed downstream.

Contrary to traditional package manager based distros, this is more efficient and reliable.

At least that’s the mission from what I know, but I also might be wrong. Then please correct me :)

If you’re a fan of that principle, then consider checking out Logseq.

It’s main workflow is that you use the Journal page and write down everything that’s on your mind, may it be projects, research, social stuff, or whatever.

And while writing, you link that stuff with other stuff, and in the end, even when forgetting the exact search cues, you can go hunting for words mentally, and always find what you wrote months ago.

Obsidian, the competitor of it, is also great, but more similar to traditional note taking software, and therefore more hierarchical.

Logseq is FOSS too btw!

I edited my comment and corrected it. Thanks.

When I had those problems (and constantly new packages), I probably chose latest and not stable.

I think that was the issue.

I thought about rebasing from other uBlue-variants to it, but quickly disregarded the option for me.

Often, and in this case too, it’s often a spectrum of compromises between convenience vs. security.

I personally, as a casual user, feel absolutely safe enough already with Fedora Atomic. It just works without any hassles, and with the stuff that comes with it (SELinux, containers, immutable base, etc.) I think I am mostly safe.

Secureblue on the other hand is pretty locked down, and as someone who isn’t a professional Linuxer (™), I think fixing stuff is too hard (or annoying) for me, e.g. if KDE Connect can’t find devices, because of some hardened network connection stuff or whatever. I just wanna watch YouTube and play some games, not having 30 tabs open because basic things don’t work as I want.

I just want something that works ootb without any issues, and Secureblue just isn’t it for me. I prefer Bluefin and Bazzite because of that.

Also, I’ve heard about the dev(s) and community being a bit toxic, or at least not being a pleasure to collaborate with. But I can’t verify that.

Thanks for your experience report!

Yeah man, Aurora (and uBlue in general) is fucking amazing. I’m using it on my laptop, and Bazzite on my gaming PC, which is pretty much almost the same tbh.

Sometimes, people here on Lemmy might think I’m getting paid by someone to make advertisements for uBlue, but it’s literally the best distro I tried so far.

It’s one of the few distros I would recommend for non-techy people, like my mum or friends.

The only thing I dislike about Aurora in particular is the release schedule of KDE.

Bluefin (Gnome) offers a gts variant, which offers older (and therefore more stable) packages, so you have half a year of extra testing.

Sadly, KDE doesn’t allow that, so it’s more of a rolling release, like you said. Because of that, my experience with Aurora has been a bit worse than Bluefin, but still better than most other distros with KDE imo.

EDIT: Dumbass me chose aurora:latest and not aurora:stable, no wonder I constantly got brand new packages. Ignore the last part.

Darktable is WAY better than RawTherapee. Like, lightyears ahead.

I don’t want to talk badly about RT, but it’s just trash imo. Development of RT has pretty much stopped, while DT has a huge community and many developers. It has become the only FOSS alternative to stuff like Lightroom.

The only issue I have with DT is that:

1. There’s way too much stuff going on for a beginner, and even with some experience, most features are too hidden due to clutter.
2. Some defaults are just badly set imo. For example, why do you not want lens correction and some other (neutral) stuff applied automatically?
3. Many modules are just redundant and should never be touched. There is soo much niche and legacy stuff nobody wants or needs, like 3 different white balance modules for example.

Great news, this preset fixes both of these issues!

It “removes” many of those unnecessary modules from your UI and applies some stuff already for you, which you would anyways, like said lens correction, so you can focus on the important stuff, like adjusting colors, contrasts, and more.

This preset should be the default imo, and it makes DT simple enough to use.

Awesome!

While this release doesn’t seem to add a huge amount of new stuff on the surface, the devs focused more on usability, performance and smaller improvements, which were all much needed.

Please correct me if I’m wrong and I oversaw something huge.

I’m really excited to see how the performance will improve on my shitty laptop. While the program itself shouldn’t take too many resources to run, it always felt barely usable on that device, and on my gaming PC, it never used the GPU. I’ve often heard many complaints about how Lightroom or Rawtherapee for example run way smoother than Darktable.

What change are you the most exited about?

Ususally, like 99% of the time, it’s absolutely the fault of the game developers and by choice.

Pretty much any game can run on Linux nowadays. Some do even run better than on Windows, but most equally good or a tiny bit worse.

The main problem is (very invasive kernel level) anti cheat.

And sometimes, games work fine on Linux, and then the devs actively lock out Linux users for some ludicrous reasons.

You can visit protondb.com for a very nice overview of which games work and how well they do.

Out of curiosity, what are the benefits of using say bluefin over just plain fedora?

Let’s say we compare regular Fedora (Workstation) or KDE spin with Vanilla Silverblue or Kinoite (Atomic).

Fedora Atomic is the newest generation of Linux, as some people call it.

It is a bit similar to how Android works. Basically, the core operating system is “locked up”, and everything you do is done as normal user, including app installations.
Therefore, you have a “you” section, with all Flatpak apps and cat videos, and a “OS” part, which you don’t have to care about.

Of course this is still Linux, and you have full sudo permissions and can still install all software on the host system, e.g. Nvidia drivers. Upstream Fedora Atomic is good, but has some minor flaws, like users having to install said Nvidia drivers or codecs manually.

uBlue (Bazzite, Bluefin, etc.) basically take the upstream image and rebuild it with a lot of tweaks and optimizations, like having codecs (e.g. for watching videos) already included. They especially try to make everything as user friendly as possible and provide a “just works” distro.

As I said, it’s a bit similar to how you use Android: you don’t use Android, it’s only a platform for you to launch your apps. You don’t worry about codecs, updates gone wrong, or whatever. You just use it and don’t think about it. And that’s the mission. Building an extremely robust and simple OS.

I should also add that I prefer a long term support installation because I don’t reinstall very often.

You’ll never have to reinstall anything. If an update comes out, either a big release or just bug fixes, they get installed in the background and then applied onto the next boot without any interference. You don’t notice it.

And if you really want to switch to another variant, e.g. when the new Cosmic DE comes out, you can do it with just one command. With that, the “you” section is kept, and the “OS part” is swapped out.

And if you worry about being too bleeding edge, you can choose the ´gts´ variant of Bluefin, which is a more conservative branch with less surprises.

I can wholeheartly recommend you either Bazzite or Aurora / Bluefin.

All three are pretty much the exact same under the hood (Fedora Atomic). They are from the uBlue-Project and focus A LOT on user friendliness, hardware enablement and a “boring” (just works) experience.

Bazzite is more meant for gaming, and Aurora and Bluefin are more for general use, but you can of course use them totally interchangeably. You can even try out one, and if you don’t like it as much, you can rebase to another variant with just one command.

The cool thing about them is that the Nvidia drivers are already baked into the image if you choose the Nvidia option on the download page.

This means, that you probably won’t encounter any breakages, and even if you do, you don’t have to fix them on your own. If your setup breaks, every one else’s will break too, because the non-user-facing part of the OS is the same everywhere, and the devs will fix it very rapidly. In the meantime, you can just select the image from yesterday, where everything still worked, and continue with your stuff for the next few hours :)

I’ve never encountered such a chill distro in my Linux journey yet!