Huh? Did you respond to the wrong user?I’m not OP, I don’t go out talking at people at work.

All of my friends are already pretty much on the same page more or less, it’d be hard to be friends with someone who is against human rights or doesn’t care about such things as I’m a minority.

The question i posed in my comment was about a societal scale: what do you do to reach a disengaged electorate or an electorate that has no desire to know the truth and is not actively seeking it out whatsoever, instead believing things that re completely transparently false.

Because as it stands, the current strategy of content online or in traditional media simply ends up preaching to the choir, the lectures containing truth end up reaching only those who seek them out and as such already have an allegiance to the truth and likely at least to some extent agree with them, or see them as epistemologically well justified beliefs imperically and/or logically.

I personally rather obviously can’t make friends of like 50% of the population of a country for instance, so it’s not really a workable solution lol and I don’t think that’s what you meant.

So how do you show those people who believe transparently false things because it suits them the truth and teach them to want to seek out truth and want to believe the truth and to spot falsehoods and not be swayed by rhem, when those people have absolutely no interest in such things?

And if you can’t, what do you do then? Because these people will literally destroy a democratic society if given the chance.

That’s 100% true and a fault in OP’s attempt, but the broader question remains, if some people don’t seek it out, what do you do then?

Yes but like exercise, intellectual exercise feels good too. The question is why do some people not do it.

Yeah, but what do you do when a good chunk of the population doesn’t go ‘seeking something out’, yet vote and influence the lives of those who do anyway?

All anyone wants to do is lecture me about how they are right, and I am wrong if I think different than them

The only relevant question is - are you wrong?

Is your take actually valid? Based on sound imperical data? Is not fallacious? Does your reasoning stand up to scrutiny? Is it fact, or a belief? Is it a justified belief?

Ultimately you shouldn’t need to be coddled if you have any allegiance to the truth.

It’s one thing if a 3-year old gets 2+2 wrong. It’s another when it’s a 33 year old. Would you waste energy on that, or would you assume that the 33-year old doesn’t care enough to bother no matter what approach is used?

The unfortunate reality is that democracy as a vehicle for progress is a failure because not enough people have an allegiance to the truth, nor have the basic epistemological tools for determining what’s knowledge, what’s belief, what’s a hypothesis, what’s theory or what’s valid evidence or any idea of what the scientific method even is, or what an axiom is etc.

They favour their delusions (I don’t mean religion specifically) over truth.

Idk I listen to politics lectures all the time, most of which I don’t fully agree with, many I disagree with outright, listening to other takes, especially opposing ones helps me scrutinize my own reasoning and critically analyze what’s what.

It’s not really the lecturer’s fault he was lecturing, if he was right and so he should be lecturing others on truth. Much like any subject really.

This idea that all opinions are equal are how we ended up in a post-truth world.

Thought-terminating clichés of “everyone likes different things” or “people believe different things” are not just signs of a lazy intellect, they are the harbingers of our doom.

You can have beliefs that aren’t facts, in fact - you have to, but you can’t just believe whatever, you need to be able to justify it, and to do that you need to understand logic, you need to understand evidence, you need to understand the scientific method and how to reason.

Honestly extremely true as a diagnosed ADHDer. I would go nuts without background noise, I didn’t even realize my sheer need for stuff in the background until I got medicated and suddenly could sit in silence for hours and hours doing work, and even found it preferable, even having background music is distracting.

Thanks!

How comes?

How come?

Why?

Cockpit.

Boycotted over those cunts platforming that cunt chapelle and never looked back. No Netflix, no Disney, no Twitter, no Facebook, no Instagram, no TikTok, no Reddit, no Amazon, no Apple.

All I need is a ship and a star to steer her by.

Child accounts are now allowed to adjust the brightness of the screen.

For some reason I’m imagining a baby being blinded by a really bright screen with no way to adjust it.

Poor baby!

I’m a zillenial (26 yo) here and I’d like to know too.

I might also be up for making such communities from scratch, what sort of stuff would you be interested in?

I should say though I don’t feel like an outcast. But then again I’ve literally never used Facebook, Twitter/X/Bluesky/Mastodon or TikTok, only used insta a bit. I grew up on 4chan before the chuds fully took over so my background is a bit different.

“Contacts” is a very very different permission from making and managing phone calls, and is prompted for separately.

The former harvests data, the latter can be used to steal money directly via the same mechanism we used to text numbers to buy ringtones and J2ME apps back in the day.

Now I’m not saying that Rednote is definitively malware and I actually kinda like some of the content I saw, which I couldn’t say for TikTok (I’m way too ADHD for short form videos, it’s very unstimulating), but maybe just keep it in mind.

Thousands of people download this shit too.

But why would any legitimate app ask for a permission for which there is practically no legitimate use? I thought Rednote was a social media thing, not a Caller application, so why does it need to make and manage phone calls on my behalf?

What else is it doing that it doesn’t need to ask permissions for? Please think critically.

And yes before someone mentions It, yes this can be used for getting a phone number automatically, but It can just prompt for my phone number (which it doesn’t need anyway, unless you post), no legitimate need to ask for such a broad permission.

More to the point, why tf are y’all so chill about this? Surely this is like literally a sign of malware 101? Like I’m only a compsci & cybersec grad so what do I know, but this to me is equivalent to opening “not a virus.exe” from “veryrealmoviedownload.com”. Literally first malware I got as a kid on Android was like this.

I thought awareness of this was pretty commonplace. The below image is literally a Facebook-tier meme that even grampa probably knows.

Are y’all just that desperate for a win? Sorry, good things don’t actually happen in our hell world.

Is this a normal thing for apps to do these days? I don’t use any other SM apart from Lemmy and only F-Droid FOSS apps so i’d legitimately like to know. Does tiktok also prompt for making and managing phone calls?

Uhmmmm no thanks lol WTF

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