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Doubtful. Putin for example has been in power for decades. Stalin ruled Russia with an iron fist for the rest of his natural life after rising to power. Unless they’re overthrown, that’s what dictators do. That’s the whole point of dictatorships, to make the leaders the new kings.

There’s nothing stopping that dude from suspending elections and just ruling indefinitely.

Okay, let me explain something to your dumb hypocritical ass before you make a fool out of yourself any further:

You’re clearly the only one being an asshole and a bully here.

You’re the one being the – how did you put it? “authoritarian we should try to avoid”, and you’re the one being a worthless hypocrite on top of it.

This is me talking to you via an alt account, an account I have because most people on Lemmy have at least 2 or 3 by virtue of federation.

You did nothing but take a cheap shot at some innocent dumb fuck who stuck their oar in because you wanted to hurt me and my feelings. And judging from the rest of your account activity, you very blatantly do the exact same thing you accuse me of doing, all the time, non-stop. And you have zero self-awareness at all.

So why would you even come here all offended at me in the first place, unless you yourself were just @FlyingSquid’s dumbass alt? I guess we’re all alts here, moron.

It’s okay though. You’re acting just like me and I’m here for it. 👏

🎼 'Cause I’m proud to be an American 🎵🎶🇺🇲🦅

I meant Lemmygrad, but the admin came to the thread and said “fuck you, I want to boost my numbers up, the tankies are staying” so it doesn’t actually matter. 🤷

Yeah, I am pretty sure the All feed is intended to show content from a variety of instances, not to be dominated by a few shitty ones.

Probably best to not try to scrape the bottom of the barrel when defending authoritarians pushing lies and propaganda. Like, if you’re going to go for a red herring, you could at least tone police me; that would at least be more plausible and less petty. Step your game up

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🤦 Wasted my time and effort on a garbage instance again.

That’s exactly what they’ve been doing. Their Tianamen Square propaganda showed up on my All feed which is how I know about it to begin with. We’re all being inundated with their garbage and we did not come to this instance to be flooded with propaganda and garbage.

I’m arguing with their shitty alt accounts here because they tried to mass downvote the thread and astroturf and gang up on me, because they don’t want efforts to defederate them to gain traction, but guess what? It didn’t work. Because they’re little bitches who thought they could scare me away, and it did not work, because I am an asshole. 😉

You’re here blatantly fucking lying to our faces thinking you can discredit me and protect those hopeless retards, proving my point. Tankies don’t belong here. If you love them so damn much, go sign up for Lemmygrad.

I actually haven’t really debated them and this isn’t the first time I’ve seen them invade an instance. I want them gone because they are spreading blatant propaganda and that should not be allowed on any instance worth its salt

Point in fact, I came here to lemm.ee specifically because it was defederated from them, but now I see the past few days that they’ve been let on again and are now invading threads with pro-CCP astroturfing and inundating the All feed with their propaganda and garbage like they always do. And that shouldn’t be allowed.

How do you foresee tankies poisoning the whole fediverse?

Because I’ve been watching what has been going on. Instances, big ones, that were previously hard-nosed about being defederated from them have mysteriously let them on their instances again, including this one. I signed up for this instance specifically BECAUSE it banned them, and then all of a sudden, for the past few days, my All feed is inundated with their crap.

That is shady, sus, and wrong. A lot of people came here specifically to get away from tankies and their garbage, and now we’re expected to put up with it because the admins refuse to act and even let them back on? Explain to me how money, blackmail, intimidation, manipulation or abject retardation isn’t involved in that?

Or how it won’t happen to other instances once those cretins get a foothold in a big enough percentage of the fediverse?

It doesn’t even seem like they are trying to make a case, they are just bluntly stating misinformation. If we are going to remove all misinformation then we are going to need paid admins because even at the current scale its a full time job.

The admin already accepts donations so he has no excuse.

I see blatant misinformation everywhere on the fediverse already and only a tiny percentage is tankie related.

You can thank the alt-right dipshits at .world for that, and that’s why I speak out now: unless admins’ feet are held to the fire and they’re held accountable for not protecting their users, it’ll keep getting worse. The admins made an instance they want us to use and accept donations to keep it running. Therefore they have a responsibility toward us they’re not meeting, and it results in dangerous shit like propaganda claiming the Tianamen Square massacre did not happen to run freely when it should not. That is crazy and you know it

bad economic policies

Who cares about China anyway?

Yea the person claiming Biden has bad economic policies wants to ignore the second largest economy in the world… 😂

Well lookie motherfucking loo here boys, the proof is in the pudding.

You all are really butthurt that no one else wants you around that you gang up on anyone who complains, resorting to cheap personal attacks and tone policing, thinking you’re going to pretend to be an onlooker when in reality you’re just some dipshit tankie acting in bad faith hoping to astroturf.

THIS is why you scumbags don’t belong here. THIS is why the admins need to take responsibility and defederate from your asses, so we can have meaningful conversations in good faith without them being inundated by your ilk so you can feel like you’re in control of something.

Tankies DO NOT belong here and they need to be defederated from this instance before they do worse.

I am asking the admins to defederate from them but good job not even reading the thread and showing your priorities are all out of whack.

Tankies claiming the Tianamen Square massacre didn’t happen are pretty toxic

I shouldn’t have to as that costs money. It’s the admin’s job to fix his server, not mine.

If he’s a tankie or a supporter of them, he has a responsibility to us to be honest about that fact instead of allowing them to run roughshod and inundate the instance with propaganda. He KNOWS they don’t belong here but he’s ignoring the problem. That means he either is one of them, supports them or is being taken in by them. And that’s a serious problem that will affect the whole federation, not just this one instance.

If tankies get away with doing that here, they’ll do it to other admins, and poison the whole federation. It’ll be impossible for new instances to flourish without kowtowing to them, and so it has to be stopped here and now with the bigger instances.

EDIT: Welp, clearly I’ll have to, and it will be expensive, but we sane folks have no choice. These piece of shit admins on several different instances have shown us that they clearly don’t care about their users (this is not the first instance I have seen that’s pulled this crap).

Let me see what I can do

Nah fam, I personally want tankies here and I don’t care if they spread propaganda, astroturf and gang up on anyone they don’t like and generally cause trouble and you complaining makes me feel afraid they’ll be defederated again, go away and stop threatening my friends’ attempts to control popular instances

-You

And here’s a .worlder all butthurt because he remembers the time I called out his shitty instance on doing the exact same thing, and as history repeats itself, he feels embarrassed

Do you feel like you should have to go through the gargantuan effort of blocking every single tankie sub on every single server you go to? Or do you think you can garner the stones to get at least one admin somewhere to do his damn job?

Is that asking too much? Or would you rather hide behind me to justify defending scumbags literally spreading propaganda claiming the Tianamen Square massacre didn’t happen because you don’t like me and want to play tone police to express it?

Because if me being angry about this is more of a serious problem to you than that, then there’s a good reason why we label .worlders as alt-right dipshits and don’t listen to you.

Apparently yes, because you’re here defending them in a meta thread for my instance written specifically to address this issue, an instance you’re not even a part of, so what reasonable conclusion can we make except you’re here to defend them and keep them around when you know instance natives do not want them?

See, this shit is why the tankies need to leave. They’re astroturfing and getting their buddies/alt accounts to stick up for them and this is like the third that has cropped up in the thread so far. How can meaningful engagement happen if they are going to be allowed to just gang up on anyone who complains or disagrees with them? That’s not a fun instance and the admins of lemm.ee have no business allowing it.

That’s the reason why I made this thread. They need to go, yesterday.