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Instead of being mad about words, maybe you should think about why the words bother you more than the injustice they describe.

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  • They did not release the final model without the data

    They literally did exactly that. Show me the training data. If it has been provided under an open source license, then I’ll revise my statement.

    You literally cannot create a useful LLM without the training data. That is a part of the framework used to create the model, and they kept that proprietary. It is a part of the source. This is such an obvious point that I should not have to state it.


  • You’re conflating game engines being open source with the games themselves being proprietary. Proprietary products can use (some) open source things, but it doesnt make the end product open source.

    Given that LLMs literally need the training data to be worth anything, releasing the final model without training data is not open source.



  • I disagree with this characterization of Linux devs. They’re just people. I’m sure there are some shitheads out there, but I don’t think it’s anymore the case than with any other sample of software devs.

    I think the more likely reason that accessibility technology is an afterthought in Linux is because it’s an afterthought in pretty much all software, which is a bad thing, but I haven’t seen them be elitist about accessibility.

    Some of the problem really is just that Linux graphical capabilities have been challenging enough enough that doing some of the extra demanding things that various access capabilities require weren’t possible until recently (and some of them still aren’t possible).



  • Yeah. I’m sad to say that, about a year ago, I switched back to macOS because it handles accessibility waaaaay better. And I don’t even use screen readers. It sounds like their situation is even worse :/

    I just need the ability to easily zoom in and out using Super+scroll up/down (without causing performance issues or visual jank) and trackpad gestures that aren’t extremely limited. Granted, both of these things may be more of a DE thing, but wherever the issue lies, I would like them fixed.





  • My use of the word “stealing” is not a condemnation, so substitute it with “borrowing” or “using” if you want. It was already stolen by other tech oligarchs.

    You can call the algo open source if the code is available under an OSS license. But the larger project still uses proprietary training data, and therefor the whole model, which requires proprietary training data to function is not open source.





  • That’s fine if you think the algorithm is the most important thing. I think the training data is equally important, and I’m so frustrated by the bastardization of the meaning of “open source” as it’s applied to LLMs.

    It’s like if a normal software product provides a thin wrapper over a proprietary library that you must link against calling their project open source. The wrapper is open, but the actual substance of what provides the functionality isn’t.

    It’d be fine if we could just use more honest language like “open weight”, but “open source” means something different.


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    The training data is the important piece, and if that’s not open, then it’s not open source.

    I don’t want the data to avoid using the official one. I want the data so that so that I can reproduce the model. Without the training data, you can’t reproduce the model, and if you can’t do that, it’s not open source.

    The idea that a normal person can scrape the same amount and quality of data that any company or government can, and tune the weights enough to recreate the model is absurd.





  • Nice!

    Well, my favorite is Helix – a text editor. But it’s a TUI in the same way that vim is a TUI, and being that it’s a text editor, you’re likely to have very strong opinions about whatever your current favorite editor is. Which is totally fine. I’m not looking to start any editor wars.

    Here are some others:

    • jellyfin-tui: nice Jellyfin music player
    • managarr: manages Sonarr and Radarr servers
    • wiki-tui: probably goes without saying what this one does 😁
    • synd: an RSS reader
    • yazi: file manager

    I use way more than just those. If you do find that some TUIs may be useful, there are a bunch more here. If not, I’m still interested in what behaviors you find off-putting about TUIs. Maybe I can incorporate that feedback for TUIs that I write :)