Additionally, what changes are necessary for you to be able to use Linux full time?

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    It just doesn’t work. It’s a simple as that. Things are constantly breaking. When they do I look up support articles that are written in fucking Klingon and sent to the terminal to type in commands that always return some sort of generic error “command not found” or some shit because the solution is written for a different one of the 862700422 available distros.

    I have no idea how to install all the different program types (flathub, db, appimage, etc.). Windows has exe. I click “install” and boom, it’s done.

    Sometimes I try to remove software in the package manager and it acts like it is uninstalled but it’s still fucking there.

    I can’t even select a file because there are no previews. Just a gazillion blue squares with names like “dlcosn_3947912947”.

    And other reasons, but I digress. I don’t have time to learn a new career, I just want a computer that works.

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      I used Linux Mint for several years on a dual-boot laptop. I rarely found myself booting Windows. While there was a learning curve, Mint was fairly accessible out of the box and was generally a delight to use. Until it wasn’t. At some point, the drivers for my video card updated, and just flat broke everything. And I can’t really use a computer on which I can’t see the desktop. I waited. And waited. A fix for the driver may have eventually come, but after awhile, booting into Windows just became my default, until eventually I just wiped the Linux partition to recover the storage space.

      It was fun while it lasted, and I may choose one day to give it another go for the fourth time. This wasn’t the first time I’ve had something like this happen. First time was with Fedora, and the second was Ubuntu. Each time, I had the same “it worked until it didn’t” experience, and each time it stopped working was usually some kind of broken driver making my hardware incompatible.

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      I have no idea how to install all the different program types (flathub, db, appimage, etc.). Windows has exe. I click “install” and boom, it’s done.

      That’s strange, I’ve always felt that installing stuff is a lot easier on Ubuntu than windows. It’s just apt install <program> and apt remove <program>. Having to manually download and run an exe feels outdated in comparison.

      I can’t even select a file because there are no previews. Just a gazillion blue squares with names like “dlcosn_3947912947”.

      Curious what distro you installed that had that issue. The only preview issue I’ve encountered was on win10 where I had to pay for windows to support H.265 to give me previews of H.265 files.

      Things are constantly breaking. When they do I look up support articles that are written in fucking Klingon and sent to the terminal to type in commands that always return some sort of generic error “command not found” or some shit because the solution is written for a different one of the 862700422 available distros.

      That’s a fair point though. If you aren’t willing (and most aren’t) to learn enough to be comfortable with the terminal, it can be very easy break something when you are forced to interact with the terminal.

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        I’ve always felt that installing stuff is a lot easier on Ubuntu than windows. It’s just apt install <program> and apt remove <program>.

        😂 Except that you have to know exactly what <program> is, character for character, and usually includes some long string of numbers and letters where 1 character is wrong and you have to retype the whole damn thing. This is the opposite of easy.

        Curious what distro you installed that had that issue.

        Fedora/Gnome

        If you aren’t willing (and most aren’t) to learn enough to be comfortable with the terminal, it can be very easy break something when you are forced to interact with the terminal.

        Yes and the problem is you’re ALWAYS sent into the terminal for absolutely any kind of debugging.

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        There will never be a world where average users prefer typing arcane command line shit over clicking on a button in a GUI.

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      you don’t have to use all of the app containers things, pacman, apt or whatever your distro uses is often enough.

      if you don’t have previews at all, your system is completely broken and fucked up

      if you get a command not found, well you just need install the missing tool…

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        you don’t have to use all of the app containers things, pacman, apt or whatever your distro uses is often enough.

        I don’t even know what these words mean.

        if you don’t have previews at all, your system is completely broken and fucked up

        What are “previews”?

        if you get a command not found, well you just need install the missing tool…

        …what tool!?

        I’m constantly genuinely surprised at how Linux users are unable to grasp why people don’t want to use it.

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          Your points are all entirely fair. It also surprises me how quite a few people don’t get it.

          And it’s not that many requisites to fix it either.

          A) don’t break shit on updates. This is the worst thing that could happen.

          B) There needs to be a clicky app store. Just one. No options. No pick your repos. No pick between flatpak and whatever else. Just a visual app store you click an app and it install. You click to remove it gets removed.

          It’s seriously not that much you’d think.

          Having that said. If you do choose to endure through the learning curve. It’s mostly worth it. But fuck. It’s such a dumb self imposed learning curve.

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            The biggest strength of linux, is also its greatest flaw and weakness.

            Is that if people disagree with what a projects doing, they can split off, make their own version of the project, and now that has to compete with the other project, as well as the 5 others that are out there.

            So things just keep diluting, and spreading out, when it should be going in the opposite direction for a good user experience.