In the past, laminated glass was usually installed in the windshield, with side and rear windows being tempered only.

The difference is that tempered glass is per-stressed so that when it cracks, it shatters into many tiny and dull pieces. Laminated is the same thing, but with layers of plastic sandwiched with layers of tempered glass. Laminated glass will still shatter, but will be held together by the plastic layers.

In an emergency, small improvised, or purpose built tools meant to shatter tempered glass will be useless if the glass is laminated.

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    9 months ago

    Anyone know of a reasonable tool that can get through laminated glass and be kept near the drivers seat?

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        9 months ago

        Not a handgun if you want to be able to exit through the opening. Under water? Not sure a shotgun will even be helpful unless you fire at all corners to break it up more thoroughly.

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      9 months ago

      Use the same type of glass tool as before to shatter it. Then just push it out of the way. It’s still the same glass. It just stays held together with the plastic.

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        9 months ago

        Will that work when you’re submerged underwater and the pressure of the water is pushing against the glass?

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          8 months ago

          The recommended (and slightly terrifying) advice is to let the car fill first. Basically, use the time and air to prepare yourself. When the car fills, the pressure will equalise, and you can push the windscreen out with your feet.

          Unfortunately, unless you’ve thought it through beforehand, most people panic.

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      9 months ago

      A “Glass-Master” is what I used in the fire service. Goes a lot faster than you would think.

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      8 months ago

      vixtorinox (swiss army) rescue tool. It’s a locked knife - most probably illegal in many places.

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      9 months ago

      They make safety glass shatter tools and they usually also come with seatbelt cutters attached to them as well. Looks like a really large, sharp ballpoint pen tip.

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      9 months ago

      I would guess you could use a regular tool for breaking a normal window, then cut through the plastic with a sturdy knife. Not great to need two tools in an emergency though, and keeping a combat knife in your glove box might raise some eyebrows.

      Unfortunately, being difficult to get through is the whole point

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        9 months ago

        Laminated, not just tempered. There’s a strong layer of plastic inside the window. Even if you shatter the glass you still can’t get out.