• ???@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Here in Sweden, firing an employee for giving an opinion on company policy is illegal. Just look at the Tesla union wars.

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      8 months ago

      That’s not actually true. Even in Sweden, employees can be fired for misconduct and what constitutes misconduct is a complex matter. But more importantly, in the Tesla case, those employees are on strike which is a different issue.

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        8 months ago

        They can be fired for misconduct, yes, What makes you think protests or giving opinons on work related mtter, possibly supoorted by a union, would be interpreted as “misconduct”? Can you give an example of a case like that where misconduct was having an issue with selling products to war criminals or similar?

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          8 months ago

          Publicly labeling customers as “war criminals” is misconduct and will get you fired anywhere in the world, yes. Stop pretending you misunderstand this simple fact.

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            8 months ago

            Can you show that in Sweden?

            If not maybe you could stop pretending to misunderstand a simple fact.

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              That’s stupid. How can I show you an instance of someone talking against a customer publicly is Sweden? Calming that employees cannot get fired for damaging the business in any country is completely false. Thinking that the situation in Sweden with Tesla is similar to what happened in Google is completely ignorant.

              I understand simple facts extremely well. The problem is that you’re trying to make this situation into something it isn’t

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                8 months ago

                Can you give me the exact law that says this would be the case in Sweden?

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                  8 months ago

                  These are the government guidelines.

                  You should be more careful on how you let information reach you. You have to be pretty ignorant to think that there exists a country which doesn’t allow business to fire employees.

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                    Fair grounds for dismissal means that an employee is behaving in an undesirable way and is aware that the behaviour is not acceptable. As an employer, you are therefore obliged to make the employee aware that you consider their behaviour to be improper.

                    Misconduct, such as failure to cooperate, incompetence and poor work performance, can be fair grounds for dismissal on grounds of misconduct.

                    So yes, again we agree, there is a law of misconduct. Can you demonstrate any reasonable example where an employer in Sweden was fired on such grounds because they protest peacefully against their own company making an unethical deal with a questionable government or the like?

                    Also your tone is just shit.