• Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Denying people tourist visas based on their country being complicit in a genocide is not an atrocity. Committing genocide is.

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      7 months ago

      To reiterate: We don’t judge a people by their nation state. That’s how atrocities get normalized.

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        7 months ago

        So by your logic Germany should not have paid reparations to the survivors and descendants of the Holocaust and should have paid no reparations to the countries it invaded? Because that was paid by the tax payer money of the people who were part of the war generation and the generations after. Even though clearly the generations after were not directly complicit, they bear the historic responsibility.

        What you are advocating for under the guise of not “normalizing atrocities” is to simply abolish every people from being held accountable for their atrocities.

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          7 months ago

          No I’m not. You’re putting so, so many inaccurate words in my mouth. That’s why I simply repeat myself so you can continue to play crazy person.

          We don’t judge the Russian people for Putin’s actions.

          We don’t judge Germans for Hitler’s actions.

          People are people. Countries are countries.

          To reiterate: We don’t judge a people by their nation state. That’s how atrocities get normalized.

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            7 months ago

            We do judge those people who voted for Hitler. The Germans do so as well. We use that political party as a slur for a reason. I would not be surprised if other countries use “Nazi” as a slur as well.

            Russia’s election is a joke. That’s what makes this different from blaming the Germans who voted for Hitler for giving the world Hitler.

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            7 months ago

            Are you getting paid by Zionists to spam that thing about the nation state, it’s really fucking weird

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              7 months ago

              Why would you think I am a Zionist? jfc. You people are braindead.

              You don’t judge people based on where they’re fucking born.

              Do you know what “nation state” means? Apparently not.

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                7 months ago

                Why’d you downvote me, I didn’t ask what you were, I asked if they were paying you. Clearly your hands are running faster than your brain is.