A society that shares my free speech values recognizes that “removing people from society” is an offensive act…
Ok, so, we have Hitler 2. They have just formed their options about how they hate whatever group and want them dead. They then go to talk to others about how problematic this target group is. And then everyone just ignore them because they implicitly are aware what Hitler 2 is talking about will eventually lead to violence?
Replace “Hitler 2” with “Fred Phelps” of the Westboro Baptist Church, and you can see how that scenario turned out for Fred. Basically, yes.
In a society that values free speech, the idea of “how they hate whatever group and want them dead” is the antithesis of that philosophy. Any time he “talks to others” about the people he hates, they recognize he is preaching an opinion contrary to that philosophy. Consequently, they shun him, rather than follow him. They leave him to say what he wants, but his speech alienates people instead of helping him consolidate power.
Fascism is destroyed when nobody - not you; not Hitler 2 - has power to silence dissent.
I see where you are coming from. I just don’t think it can be pulled off in the current reality we live in. Fascism is spreading today. Things have been getting worse. The US has freedom of speech and the Fascist are currently using it as a shield. I am not saying we have to get rid of freedom of speech. I just think there needs to be consequences to saying dumb shit.
Fascism is destroyed when nobody - not you; not Hitler 2 - has power to silence dissent.
To be clear I don’t want to lose freedom of speech to silence the fascists I just want to punch them and make fun of them if they do start spreading their ideology.
Good, I am ready to learn.
Ok, so, we have Hitler 2. They have just formed their options about how they hate whatever group and want them dead. They then go to talk to others about how problematic this target group is. And then everyone just ignore them because they implicitly are aware what Hitler 2 is talking about will eventually lead to violence?
Is that right?
Replace “Hitler 2” with “Fred Phelps” of the Westboro Baptist Church, and you can see how that scenario turned out for Fred. Basically, yes.
In a society that values free speech, the idea of “how they hate whatever group and want them dead” is the antithesis of that philosophy. Any time he “talks to others” about the people he hates, they recognize he is preaching an opinion contrary to that philosophy. Consequently, they shun him, rather than follow him. They leave him to say what he wants, but his speech alienates people instead of helping him consolidate power.
Fascism is destroyed when nobody - not you; not Hitler 2 - has power to silence dissent.
I see where you are coming from. I just don’t think it can be pulled off in the current reality we live in. Fascism is spreading today. Things have been getting worse. The US has freedom of speech and the Fascist are currently using it as a shield. I am not saying we have to get rid of freedom of speech. I just think there needs to be consequences to saying dumb shit.
To be clear I don’t want to lose freedom of speech to silence the fascists I just want to punch them and make fun of them if they do start spreading their ideology.