• fishos@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    “I’m voting for X, even if he’s in a coma” is the exact kind of cult rhetoric you mock Trumpers for following. You’re blindly following a leader because “he’s going to save us” and willingly dismissing any criticisms, just shoving your fingers in your ears and going “LA LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU”. Oh, and calling anyone who disagrees a Russian/Trump shill.

    Fuck the US Democrats. Progressives in name only. They had their chance and they failed miserably. Time for a new party to step up. We need an actual left party, not a “less right than the extreme” one.

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      5 months ago

      When there is literally one alternative and it is the Trump administration? I do not think it is cultish even to say that I will literally vote for a grilled cheese sandwich for president if that grilled cheese sandwich has the current team continuing to run the executive branch instead of Trump and his horrible people.

      It’s not a cultish obsession with the candidate you want to win, it’s a desperate desire to avert disaster.

      If a person is convinced that changing the candidate at this point in the race lowers the chances of winning, they may be wrong about that premise, but if they then say they will vote for Biden even if he’s in a coma, it doesn’t mean they are obsessed with him.

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      5 months ago

      So who are you voting for? If it’s not Biden, then it’s for Trump. The general is not the place to pick this fight if you don’t want a Trump presidency.

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        You’re right. The Democrats shouldn’t pick this fight now of all times, the most important election of our lives.

        They must, to protect democracy, present their strongest candidate. One who can crush trump in a debate and earn the highest approval rating of voters who don’t know about politics. One that the entire country can unite behind to fight facism and trump.

        Cuz we the voters have a responsibility to vote for anyone who isn’t trump, right? But we can only cast a vote. It’s up to them to present a candidate who can win them

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          Ideally things may have gone differently earlier this year, but they didn’t. There have been exactly 0 alternate options that have been presented outside of social media comments. 4 months is not enough time to come up with a plan, hold some method of selecting the candidate, then marketing them and getting people that don’t watch the news to know what’s up. Further, there are legal hurdles to getting on state ballots. There is 0 chance that this wouldn’t be fought to the election and not resolved. Biden is the only option unless he kicks the bucket and succession kicks in.

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            5 months ago

            Hey, the DNC can make all the excuses they want to for the situation we’re currently in. I would prefer solutions from them instead. At the end of the day, governance is their job. Our job is to vote. If you feel like their excuses (because they is what they are) are good enough, then bully. I don’t care for them, or the direction a party accustomed to making excuses instead of plans is going.

            I think ol joe will pull it off in Nov. I am disheartened that this is the best case scenario, cuz i dislike the prospect that no matter who does we get a president who may be losing his marbles or one who’s eaten them.

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              5 months ago

              It’s a good thing that Biden doesn’t actually run the country, but listens to a bunch of really smart advisors that actually run the country. If you’re complacent with a trump presidency, don’t vote, vote 3rd party, vote trump, it doesn’t matter it’s all the same. The rest of us will reiterate how fucking stupid that would be and how opinions about how things should be don’t matter to reality. Go ahead and support Trump, but quit hiding behind some facade of morality when your action or inaction rather helps bring about the worst case scenario for millions of people.