Russians who promote 'child-free movement' could soon face hefty fine
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Vyacheslav Volodin, the speaker of the lower house of parliament and an ally of President Vladimir Putin, said a new bill would tackle the “ideology of childlessness.”
    • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
      772·
      2 months ago

      Right-wingers reach for these religious or moralistic justifications and laws, but Putin is probably just noticing, like many other countries, that their economy is screwed if their birth rates continue to decline. And yet the planet is screwed if we continue to increase. As climate change eats away at the habitable areas of the planet, the obvious thing is for habitable countries with declining birth rates to accept many immigrants from places climate causes people to flee from. This will help those people and help the receiving country’s economy. Unfortunately the right wing is also too wrapped up in xenophobia to accept this solution. They’d rather double down on controlling women.

      • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.netEnglish
        521·
        2 months ago

        I recently heard a “housing expert” say that cities have to keep growing, there’s no sustainable static level of population, and I thought “there’s better be or we’re all fucked.”

        The problem with capitalism is that it only works if there’s perpetual growth, which (as many before me have pointed out) is the logic of cancer.

        • sensiblepuffin@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          2 months ago

          Tbf, people moving from rural areas to more dense and urban areas is kind of inevitable as time goes on. Megacities when?

          • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.netEnglish
            11·
            2 months ago

            And why is that “inevitable?” Is it because capitalism makes agrarian life basically impossible?

            The problem with studies based on any current trends is that they are all framed with the assumption that capitalism will continue to be the dominant socioeconomic system.

            • sensiblepuffin@lemmy.worldEnglish
              41·
              2 months ago

              Currently the earth is overpopulated and many parts of the world are only just starting to slow their population growth. The problem of crowding is going to be here for awhile. Eventually it would be great if we could reduce our population to the point where there’s plenty of space for all, if that sounds utopian to you, but for the time being we’re going to have to live in denser areas if we want to deliver amenities and services to all (and we do).

      • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        2 months ago

        Economies are only screwed with declining birthrate if the goal is unlimited growth. What will happen if the trend continues is stability. Stability is bad for empire building types. It leaves less room for manipulation.

        • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          In any country with public healthcare, there is a problem with how to afford to care for the elderly when the population contains more elderly people needing expensive healthcare than working people paying the taxes that fund it. This seems like a problem that extends beyond capitalism’s growth-seeking. It’s an issue of how to achieve stability.

          • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            2 months ago

            That is the hole you dig with the myth of unlimited growth. No doubt the correction will be somewhat uncomfortable.

    • angrystego@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      2 months ago

      New ones are born every day, as the “women’s purpose” dictates. I wish it was a generation thing, but I’m afraid it’s ingrained on a deeper level.

        • Obinice@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          Watch out Soup, I’m sick with COVID right now and I will slurp u

          I’m a soup slurpin, joint achin MACHINE right now 😆

          • Soup@lemmy.cafeEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            Awww. That sucks. I just got over it myself. Took a shit-ton of vitamin C, D, Zinc, and B-12, and binge watched Ugly Betty.

            Was rough. Hang in there!

            • Obinice@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              2 months ago

              I’ve been binge watching the fever dreams (⊙ᴗ⊙)

              I’m mostly worried about my mother, I caught it from my father (somehow, after seeing him like once last week in passing) and even though he isolated from her once he knew he had it, she tested positive yesterday too, …and she’s due to go on her first big trip abroad in her ENTIRE LIFE in like 4 days to Paris (we’re a bit lower class haha), supposed to be a big special once in a lifetime treat from her daughter, planned it for a year now :-(

              First time any of us have caught it too, my father is in the high risk category (twice over) so we’ve generally been careful this whole time, and we’ve been getting the boosters (ironically this year’s booster became available TODAY) but ya know it was going to happen eventually…

              But enough of my story of extremely bad timing, glad to hear you recovered without and lasting negative effects :-)

    • neidu2@feddit.nlEnglish
      21·
      2 months ago

      Contrary to popular belief, you are actually factually spot on. It is all described in detail in soviet-era files, locked away.

      Even JD Vance confirms this, ans I challenge FSB to release any documentation that disputes it.

  • Desistance@lemmy.worldEnglish
    411·
    2 months ago

    If Putin is doing it, then Republicans are not far behind. Look for that bill that taxes single people way more.

    • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
      7·
      2 months ago

      Russia took a more original turn: as the key interest rate approached 20% APY, legislation was implemented to subsidize mortgage to people with kids (6% APY).

      With rent prices soaring along (up to 75% in some places, about 40% on average year on year), housing market simply prices out everyone without kids, making living conditions way worse.

  • Soup@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    302·
    2 months ago

    There’s this shit, and there’s people right here on lemmy that worship the ground this piece of human filth walks on.

      • Soup@lemmy.cafeEnglish
        91·
        2 months ago

        Oh I don’t. But the fact that there are people here that will, does concern me.

      • volodya_ilich@lemm.eeEnglish
        31·
        2 months ago

        People will probably say hexbear or .ml, but I’ve been browsing hexbear lately and haven’t seen any of that. In fact today I saw a post bringing attention to this particular topic (Russian gvt cracking down against “childfree lifestyle”)

  • LouNeko@lemmy.worldEnglish
    302·
    2 months ago

    I thought a woman’s purpose is to seize the means of production, just like a mans?

    • volodya_ilich@lemm.eeEnglish
      51·
      2 months ago

      If you’re saying this ironically because you think Putin is a communist, you’re extremely misguided about the current political situation in Russia.

      If you’re endorsing communism, based

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
    18·
    2 months ago

    Ohh, my wife’s ex said the exact same thing to me whilst they were still married. He’s also Russian and loves Putin.

    I wonder why she’s his ex now 🤔

  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    14·
    2 months ago

    Anyone who can look at a human being and say “this is what your just do no matter what because of what parts you have and nothing else” doesn’t see others as full people.