• LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org
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    2 months ago

    I’ll assume that Loongson are equally as backdoored, but by Chinese intelligence rather than US intelligence.

    RISC-V and OpenPOWER are the last remaining non-user-hostile ISAs. That and possibly old x86.

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      I don’t think any ISA is backdoored.

      The implementations can be. But, of course, you can without any problems make a backdoored CPU with RISC-V ISA. Or with OpenPOWER.

      I’d like ppc desktop hardware tbh. With OpenFirmware and all the convenience, but modern.

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      They spent 16 billion dollars in R&D in 2023, which is a bit lower than the 17 billion in 2022, but still way higher than the 13 billion from 2019. In 2023 they distributed as dividends (might be wrong on the calculation here, but I think that this is the right number, 1 billion dollars)

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        Intel wasted 108b between 2006 and 2020. During this time AMD recovered from near bankruptcy and took the lead.

        We are also gonna give intel. Illions for the fab now 🤡

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    If Intel happens to potentially go under by losing China, the US government coming in would be convenient for both parties.

    So Intel’s in a funny position where they can actually pressure China for more economic incentives like subsidies or tax breaks

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      Look it up. The latest generation of Intel chips have incredibly egregious issues.

      If you think you’re owning the Chinese by supporting Intel, you’re very misguided. Instead, you should be hoping for RISC-V to catch on because closed architectures are vastly more vulnerable to exploitation. They represent an unknown tech stack which is a no-no for anyone who actually values freedom, privacy, and liberty. They also cost tens of millions to create while RISC-V costs significantly less since it doesn’t require a company to buy a million dollar license to build on a closed architecture.

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        The architecture being open source or not has nothing to do with security. All high performance risc-v cpu designs are proprietary. The instruction set itself is open source, but beyond that you have as much visibility into the internals of the processor as you would with an Intel one. The only thing the license impacts is that you can legally make your own risc-v processor if you want, whereas tou can’t make your own x86 processor if you want (legally).

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          Thanks for setting me straight. I’ll still be pushing the idea of RISC-V.

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          Can an end-user request the source for a commercial RISC-V processor or is that just a licensing issue?

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            You can request it but no manufacturer is going to give it to you, nor would they have any obligation to.

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        2 months ago

        Plus Intel supports Apartheid Israel. Both the company and their tech don’t support freedom, privacy, or liberty

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          Legitimately back when I chose my CPU and I was debating between the Intel i9 14900K and the AMD 7950x3D, my final decision to go with AMD came down to this because at the time their specs seemed almost identical. And based on the more recent news about the 14 series, I absolutely made the right decision! 🇵🇸

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            While i tend to prefer AMD i wouldn’t put it past them to cut deals with israel if it meant huge profits for Ms Su.

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          Buddy. Their a processor company. They sell computational processors. At what point do you blame water companies for supporting Israel for supplying Israel water. Calm down.

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            Because they could invest that money anywhere besides an Apartheid State committing genocide

            In 2020, Intel was indirectly employing some 53,000 workers in Israel, and in 2022 Intel Israel declared record exports of $8.7 billion, constituting 1.75% of Israel’s entire GDP and 5.5% of all Israeli tech exports.

            Intel’s declared goal from this investment, to “ensure that Israel remains a global center of semiconductor technology and talent,” is politically and ideologically driven. Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger has paid over 100 visits to Israel, and considers Intel’s business in Israel “deeply personal” to him.

            In comparison, Intel has suspended plans to invest $20 billion in new chipmaking facilities in Ohio (US), driving jobs away from the US to apartheid Israel.

            Apartheid Chips - #BoycottIntel

            Plus, Israel steals their water from the Palestinian people

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              Great! Not sure how keeping a countries economy alive is evil… This isn’t the 3rd Reich bud.

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        No, I get that. The statement from them makes it seem like retaliation for Huawei being banned in the US though. They have their own shitty x86 chips they apparently don’t seem psyched to use instead as well.