• Cptn_Slow@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    I’m genuinely curious, who is getting rounded up? And who’s going to let that happen?

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      24 days ago

      He’s talking about deporting millions of illegal immigrants, which will probably require putting them in a camp at least temporarily.

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        24 days ago

        So the “camps” side of things definitely feels gross, but he’s “threatening” to enforce the law, that’s not wrong. Now if he’s weaponizing the system to deport his opposition or otherwise law abiding citizens, that’s a problem.

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          24 days ago

          He has promised to deport pro-palestine protesters.

          Most of whom are born Americans.

          You’re not paying attention. The camps are for far more than just the undocumented.

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            23 days ago

            Okay, but legally he can’t do that. No matter how much he wants to. And once again, orders are as only good as the people who are tasked with carrying them out.

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              He’s a literal criminal who has filled the courts with his minons and the police love him.

              Who’s going to stop him? Seriously who?

              His term this time is going to be worse than last time because he and the republican party have removed all the ways we have to stop him from doing whatever the fuck he wants.

              Official acts are completely legal now. He can order protesters executed and the supreme court already said that’s fine.

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              23 days ago

              It’s worth noting here that the President, as per the supreme Court, is immune from all prosecution if his actions result from the scope of his duties. It would be trivial for Trump to argue that deporting everybody he doesn’t like is within the scope of his duties, whether it’s lawful or not. That’s the unique danger we face right now: a combination of a strong man and a uniquely deferential SCOTUS. It’s never happened in American history.

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              23 days ago

              Sigh people who think a piece of paper with ink scribbles will protect them… 😮‍💨

              Presidents issue orders against the law all the time and they’re carried out. The damage is done before the issue even hits a court room and then you assume that the judge is willing to risk their life to protect your rights? 😂

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          A lot of the people he wants to deport are people claiming asylum because the country they come from is too dangerous to be in. Letting those people stay here while they plead their case is one of our lawful treaty obligations. Rounding them up and summarily deporting them is not enforcing the law it’s abrogating the law.

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      24 days ago

      The president has supreme authority over the executive branch, which includes the military. Trump has explicitly said that he would implement mass deportations, and has called democrats “the enemy within” while in the same breath saying that the national guard could be used to put them in prison.

      As for who’s going to let it happen, that would be all of the Trump sychophants that he will be appointing. He learned last time that appointing republicans isn’t enough to let him get away with his batshit crazy ideas, they have to be cult loyalists as well.

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        I don’t think he should be in charge of anything, but even if he were I can’t imagine there are enough people willing to follow those orders to actually carry them out.