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      This is literally a think-tank centered in Washington DC. Why not just call it Wrongthink, you clod? 😁

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          Holy shit, talk about obvious propaganda. You think a full half of the country is completely all about supporting a country that our entire military industrial complex is built to fight and that our military decided to declare as a near-peer rival? And you think it’s the tankies that have been taken in by propaganda?

          Jesus.

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          Calling Quincy Institute republicans, this is too good, you only read headlines. Pathetic!

          Why do you read Lemmy instead of watching Rachel Maddow? Doesn’t it put you in terrible agony from the cognitive dissonance? You’re turning into my little reply guy. 😭🤧

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              Outright tankie propaganda 🤣🤣 this group lobbies the democrats about how to make policy! The average Redditor is further to the right than George Bush in 2004, and he had sharper wits than you do!

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            Calling Quincy Institute republicans, this is too good, you only read headlines. Pathetic!

            Kelley Beaucar Vlahos is the Editorial Director of Responsible Statecraft and Senior Advisor at the Quincy Institute. Previously, she served as Executive Editor of the The American Conservative magazine, where she had been reporting and publishing regular articles on national security, civil liberties, foreign policy, veterans, and Washington politics since 2007. From 2013 to 2017, Vlahos served as director of social media and online editor at WTOP News in Washington, D.C. She also spent 15 years as an online political reporter for Fox News at the channel’s Washington D.C. bureau, as well as Washington correspondent for Homeland Security Today magazine.

            She worked for a decade and a half at the most well known Republican propaganda network, Fox News, plus other conservative shitholes.

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              You seem to have forgotten how these things work, those are excellent credentials for a democrat in 2024. Have you heard of the Lincoln Project by any chance? What about Liz Cheney? Why is Harris taking endorsements from Russian agents? 🤭

              You must have missed all of the GOP congresspeople calling the Quincy Institute traitors! They’re the most bipartisan, bog-standard foreign policy group available. You’ve just become as jingoistic and partisan as Tom Cotton! You have Nuland on Maddow to catch up on! You don’t have time to be my reply guy!

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    I don’t think the article successfully argues its main point. Sure, sanctions are galvanizing, but I believe it’s well understood that sanctioning a country is going to result in that country pursuing any other viable avenues to conduct their economic activities. It’s a stretch to say that the sanctions backfired. I would say it’s more accurate to write that the sanctions have resulted in profound consequences, and not all of them are good.

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      So what would you call profound consequences that rebounded against the USA, Europe, Australia, South Korea, and Japan, if not blowback?

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        That’s a different standard. I’m not claiming that there haven’t been negative consequences, but I would hardly call the economic sanctions “backfiring.” To me, backfiring means that the action actually brought the West further away from their goal of harming Russia using nonviolent means with the sanctions.

        Consider the price of oil. Having options to sell oil in more markets means you can generate more profits. Being forced into selling oil only to a smaller set of countries who are willing to purchase your product? That’s going to have economic consequences even though it does increase isolationism. I also imagine it’s quite a bit more inconvenient being an oligarch right now in the presence of sanctions.

        Has there been some blowback? Sure. But I don’t think it’s backfired completely. There’s definitely been a major impact.

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          Russia makes more money from the sanctions being in place from their oil sales then without the sanctions.

          That is the definition of failing.

          P.S. Russian oil has full reach of the market because countries that should abide by the sanctions aren’t.

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      Food insecurity in the USA exists without anyone sanctioning it. Stores have literally started locking deodorant and baby formula behind glass to prevent more theft.

      But you think a Newsweek story about a single person stealing a pack of butter is evidence that the sanctions are working?

      Worse, you are totally cool with sanctions harming average citizens with food insecurity and not aware that collective punishment is a literal crime against humanity?

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      One stick of butter. 😭🤧 Fortunately Newsweek assures me the US economy is doing great! I wonder if anyone has stolen A BUTTER in the US recently? Is the US under sanctions? I wonder.

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      You know I’m positively tickled by this as normally liberals want to claim that sanctions are an attack on a country’s ruling class but here you openly gloating about how you think that their population is starving, very humanitarian of you.