Summary

U.S. Muslim leaders who supported Trump to protest Biden’s stance on Gaza and Lebanon now feel betrayed by Trump’s pro-Israel Cabinet picks.

His appointments of Marco Rubio as Secretary of State, Mike Huckabee as ambassador to Israel, and Elise Stefanik as UN ambassador have drawn sharp criticism, with some accusing the administration of pursuing “Zionist overdrive” and “neoconservative” priorities.

Rabiul Chowdhury, a Philadelphia investor who chaired the “Abandon Harris” campaign and co-founded “Muslims for Trump,” and Rexhinaldo Nazarko, executive director of AMEEN, feel betrayed by broken promises of peace.

“It’s like he’s going on Zionist overdrive,” said Nazarko, adding, “it does look like our community has been played.”

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    If only there was any way to have seen this coming based on literally every single thing he’s said and done over the last decade!

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      It’s so sad, but pointing this out as an obvious consequence would have been bullying. of course, and immediately shot down as such.

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        It’s insane, honestly. An old coworker of mine who I sometimes stay in touch with is Muslim, and a Trump supporter. I’ve tried to figure out why, since Trump has never shown any meaningful support of Muslims, and all he could say is that the economy was good under Trump. Like… was having gas be $0.08 cheaper really worth having your actual family banned from entering the country? Not only was he already living paycheck-to-paycheck under Trump and still under Biden, but he was literally directly affected by Trump’s Muslim ban. I don’t know how you justify that with yourself.

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        I was called a racist for having the gall to criticize the Muslim movement to not vote Harris.

        Me calling white christians stupid for voting for Trump because it actually hurts them is OK. But calling Muslims stupid for voting 3rd party or abstaining because it actually hurts them is racist.

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        Don’t you know that pointing out the obvious consequences of electing trump before the election was actually supporting genocide?

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        “don’t tell Muslims what to do” is what I would get every time I’d point out that Trump will do far worse.

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    “It’s like he’s going on Zionist overdrive,” said Nazarko, adding, “it does look like our community has been played.”

    You literally played yourself. No help from Trump. I can’t think of a single goddamn thing he’s said that was even vaguely pro-Palestine. Jesus Christ.

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      I actually think it was Russia pushing a lot of this again. It’s exactly what they did to us Bernie supporters the last time we got the trump

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        This is what I’ve been saying all along. The Abandon Harris movement was orchestrated to disillusion voters and make them stay home. Just like what happened with Bernie bros.

        The logic of it was completely flawed. And every argument about how strategic voting is important under first-past-the-post, and how Trump would certainly be a worse choice on the subject of Israeli genocide, was met with “maybe you can support genocide, but I can’t.” Which didn’t address the issue at hand at all.

        Our country is full of rubes of all shapes, sizes, and colors. Some fall for Trump’s rhetoric and vote for him, others fall for shit like this and don’t vote.

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        All Russia did was push a narrative. The people that chose to believe it over unbiased news sources, friends and family, republicans, and their own eyes and ears watching Trump are fucking idiots.

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        I think we should really stop blaming Russian propaganda and focus on blaming ourselves. There’s too large a portion of the US population who lap up easily refuted news and opinions. Russia didn’t make Americans stupid we did. Russia didn’t divide America, its been divided since its creation.

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          I think there is plenty of blame to go around. In fact, I think the problem since the election has been that people refuse to admit that. As if there has to be one single entity you can point your finger at to blame everything on.

          And certainly don’t consider yourself culpable in any way, shape or form.

          I mean I consider myself culpable and I voted for Harris. But I also didn’t do anything to convince any of my neighbors to do it. I never phone banked or anything.

          And yet somehow the “don’t vote for Harris because genocide” people think they have absolutely nothing to do with people not voting for Harris and it’s certainly not their fault in any way that she lost.

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            There is always a bunch of relevant factors in the outcome of a national election. It’s the job of the candidate to overcome those hurdles. If they don’t, then they were the wrong candidate. It’s not about blame, it’s about how we do better next time.

            I’d much prefer that Harris won, but it does warm my heart a bit that the Democratic establishment got fucked for their manipulation of the 2020 primary and subsequent forcing of a Harris run. If we are talking blame, then that’s where it belongs. Fuck the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and the rest of the DNC corporate lineup.

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              What next time?

              All of you people who have been saying that the Democrats need to learn their lesson for next time need to come to terms with the fact that come January, you will be living in a fascist dictatorship.

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                Until the next election is cancelled, I will be working under the assumption that it will happen. Fuck that defeatist crap.

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                  Have fun with that. I won’t be with you to wait and see if that happens. There’s a reason that there’s almost no one on the German side of my family tree.

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    Lol get fucked losers.

    I’m done feeling sorry for dumbasses that shoot themselves in the foot then complain about the pain. Shut the fuck up and lay in the bed of shit you made.

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    These goddamned fucking idiots. This stupid country deserves every comeuppance it gets from this clown administration.

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    If only there was a way to know that trump would fuck them. Of course you would have to be prescient.

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    Doesn’t his Sec of Defense nominee have a Deus Vult tattoo? Yeah, that doesn’t bode well…

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      kagis

      https://forward.com/fast-forward/675325/pete-hegseth-tattoos-christian-crusades-trump/

      One of Hegseth’s most prominent tattoos is a large Jerusalem cross on his chest, a symbol featuring a large cross potent with smaller Greek crosses in each of its four quadrants. The symbol was used in the Crusades and represented the Kingdom of Jerusalem that the Crusaders established.

      Hegseth also has “Deus Vult,” Latin for “God wills it,” tattooed on his bicep. The phrase was used as a rallying cry for the First Crusade in 1096. It is also the closing sentence of Hegseth’s 2020 book, titled “American Crusade.”

      Hegseth also has a cross and sword tattooed on his arm, which he says represents a New Testament verse. The verse, Matthew 10:34, reads, “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.”

      He later added “Yeshua,” or Jesus in Hebrew, under the sword. Hegseth told the site Media Ink in a 2020 interview that the tattoo was Jesus’ Hebrew name, which he mistakenly said was “Yehweh,” a Biblical spelling of God’s name. He told Media Ink that he got the tattoo while in Bethlehem, Jesus’ birthplace, which is located in the present-day West Bank, where he was reporting for Fox Nation.

      “Israel, Christianity and my faith are things I care deeply about,” Hegseth told Media Ink.

      Hegseth opposes the two-state solution and supports exclusive Israeli sovereignty in the Holy Land. He has also said the idea of rebuilding the biblical Temple on Jerusalem’s Temple Mount is a “miracle” that could happen in our lifetimes. The First and Second Temples stood on a site where the Dome of the Rock, an Islamic shrine, now stands.

      Hegseth expressed these views in a 2018 speech delivered in Jerusalem at a conference organized by the right-wing Israel National News, also known as Arutz Sheva.

      The speech laid out a vision of a world beset by a growing darkness that can only be saved by the United States, Israel and fellow “free people” from other countries.

      The amusing thing is that OP’s article didn’t even get to him because it was talking about other nominations.

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        This is my favorite part:

        “I was in the National Guard during the inauguration of Joe Biden, so I served under Bush, served under Obama, served under Trump, and now was going to guard the inauguration because I was in the D.C. guard,” he told Fox in June. “Ultimately, members of my unit in leadership deemed that I was an extremist or a white nationalist because of a tattoo I have, which is a religious tattoo. It’s a Jerusalem cross. Everybody can look it up, but it was used as a premise to revoke my orders to guard the inauguration.”

        GUUUUYS! I’m not a white supremacist, I’m a Christian supremacist!

        Why are you all looking at me like that?

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    “Muslim leaders” who the fuck are even these people. a Philadelphia investor? yeah I bet he’s super religious. gtfoh

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      Hassan Abdel Salam, a former professor at the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities and co-founder of the Abandon Harris campaign, which endorsed Green Party candidate Jill Stein, said Trump’s staffing plans were not surprising, but had proven even more extreme that he had feared.

      A professor even. They knew less about the coming administration than my uneducated ass whose not even residing in the country where all that is happening.

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      A Philadelphia investor who chaired the Abandon Harris campaign in Pennsylvania and co-founded Muslims for Trump.

      You didn’t need to be religious to be a religious leader.

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    Heh. They sure will be greatly astonished once the first US troops ship to Israel. It’s OK, because Israel is not in the NATO.