Germany will send Ukraine additional ammunition, protective vehicles and mine clearance systems as part of a 400 million euros ($427.84 million) new aid package but has not yet made a decision on sending Taurus cruise missiles, the German defence minister was quoted as saying...
Just about one day after “in a week, two caps…” they did not decide to send Taurus. How surprising… 🤡
Spoiler: Tomorrow they will also not decide to send Taurus to Ukraine. Wednesday… let’s ask my magic 8-ball… still no. Thursday… you get my drift…
The German government had already tasked the manufacturer to check the possibility to limit the range, e.g. to be in line with the French and UK cruise missiles, as well as seeking options for firing the missiles, as Ukraine currently has no aircraft to launch them. The range seems to be an easy task, as it was reported a simple software update can do that. But I don’t know how to solve the problem launching them or if there as been any statement yet.
Another recently published evaluation is, if sending Taurus alone is possible or if personnel has to be sent with them to enable Ukraine using them. As sending troops would be problematic.
Two days ago, the German MoD announced they need probably 1-2 weeks to have all information to make a decision. So not having Taurus in the current aid package from yesterday is obvious. We’ll get a yes or no in 1-2 weeks.
The Gripen would be a compatible platform, assuming they might get them.
What I haven’t heard yet is how many of them can be refurbished again though. Germany only has around 150 in an operable state.
Do you mean a different jet or country? As Sweden is currently checking if sending Gripen would be possible. But looking at Wikipedia operators, Germany never had any of those.
Germany has some older Tornado jets that can launch Taurus, but those are still needed for the US nuclear weapons and sending jets would be a whole new discussion.
Those Tornados are barely hanging in the air as-is and spare parts are exceedingly hard to get you really don’t want to expose them to war conditions. The ECR ones are getting replaced by (upgraded and/or new) Eurofighters ASAP, the rest are to drop nukes and thus really only have to fly once anyway (and will be replaced by F35 because Eurofighter doesn’t want their secret sauce in US hands, which would be required to get US nukes certified, we might very well switch over to French nukes when it comes to nuclear sharing (While the French definitely aren’t above a bit of industrial espionage they already know everything through Airbus etc. anyway)).
No, I mean the Gripen. It’s one of the tested compatible launch platforms for Taurus missiles and there’s talks of sending them to Ukraine.
Tornados are garbage tier at this point and should rather sit in a museum. Absurdly expensive to maintain (200 hours of maintenance per 1 hour of flight) and required to uphold Germany’s nuclear sharing program (they’re the only nuclear carrier platform until the F35 arrive).
And when they announce Taurus deliveries to absolutely nobodies surprise in a week, you will instantly forget about this and pick up the next fairy tale narrative… like you probably did at least two dozen times in the last 18 months already.
Just about one day after “in a week, two caps…” they did not decide to send Taurus. How surprising… 🤡
Spoiler: Tomorrow they will also not decide to send Taurus to Ukraine. Wednesday… let’s ask my magic 8-ball… still no. Thursday… you get my drift…
Just to add some more details to this post:
The German government had already tasked the manufacturer to check the possibility to limit the range, e.g. to be in line with the French and UK cruise missiles, as well as seeking options for firing the missiles, as Ukraine currently has no aircraft to launch them. The range seems to be an easy task, as it was reported a simple software update can do that. But I don’t know how to solve the problem launching them or if there as been any statement yet.
Another recently published evaluation is, if sending Taurus alone is possible or if personnel has to be sent with them to enable Ukraine using them. As sending troops would be problematic.
Two days ago, the German MoD announced they need probably 1-2 weeks to have all information to make a decision. So not having Taurus in the current aid package from yesterday is obvious. We’ll get a yes or no in 1-2 weeks.
The Gripen would be a compatible platform, assuming they might get them.
What I haven’t heard yet is how many of them can be refurbished again though. Germany only has around 150 in an operable state.
Do you mean a different jet or country? As Sweden is currently checking if sending Gripen would be possible. But looking at Wikipedia operators, Germany never had any of those.
Germany has some older Tornado jets that can launch Taurus, but those are still needed for the US nuclear weapons and sending jets would be a whole new discussion.
Those Tornados are barely hanging in the air as-is and spare parts are exceedingly hard to get you really don’t want to expose them to war conditions. The ECR ones are getting replaced by (upgraded and/or new) Eurofighters ASAP, the rest are to drop nukes and thus really only have to fly once anyway (and will be replaced by F35 because Eurofighter doesn’t want their secret sauce in US hands, which would be required to get US nukes certified, we might very well switch over to French nukes when it comes to nuclear sharing (While the French definitely aren’t above a bit of industrial espionage they already know everything through Airbus etc. anyway)).
No, I mean the Gripen. It’s one of the tested compatible launch platforms for Taurus missiles and there’s talks of sending them to Ukraine.
Tornados are garbage tier at this point and should rather sit in a museum. Absurdly expensive to maintain (200 hours of maintenance per 1 hour of flight) and required to uphold Germany’s nuclear sharing program (they’re the only nuclear carrier platform until the F35 arrive).
@Ooops @BombOmOm The drift is…the German chancellor is fearing Putin’s wrath.
And when they announce Taurus deliveries to absolutely nobodies surprise in a week, you will instantly forget about this and pick up the next fairy tale narrative… like you probably did at least two dozen times in the last 18 months already.