Google has introduced a new feature called Restore Credentials which saves your app login info and restores it seamlessly on new devices.

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    26 days ago

    that sounds… vulnerable.

    is that why Apple devices perpetually get broken into and all the pictures/info shared?

    because their login information is held by a third party?

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        26 days ago

        I feel like I read a new article with Apple IDs being leaked every year.

        looks like there there have been six major apple data leaks since the 2014 incident you’re talking about, so a major leak based on exploits every year and a half, and then there’s also all the individual articles that pop up with someone saying they received notification that they’re iCloud data or Apple ID was leaked, which I don’t know the frequency of but I see all the time.

        https://firewalltimes.com/apple-data-breach-timeline

        https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254140360?sortBy=rank

        seems to happen fairly often.

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          26 days ago

          I think these are different. They mostly find vulnerability in the iOS system as opposed to try to crack the backup system.

          I think iOS or Android backup system are rather secure compared to other components because of the following: hacker will also need to break into a cloud drive to retrieve them, which adds extra work; the backup is simple, just bunch of files and a password, apple/google can use standard well-tested encryption to encrypt them.

          However, guaranteeing there is no way to break into an operating system, especially with all the features that a modern system requires, is much harder.

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            26 days ago

            yeah, these data leaks are all about break into iOS specifically to access iCloud data and accounts, I don’t know about their backup servers.

            If they can get the data up front, why go around the back?

            The iCloud leak from 2014 was all leaked login information also, it’s why they finally implemented encryption.

            oh but Apple officially says that the 2014 attack was only due to fishing and brute Force attacks.

            idk, enforcing encryption directly after that was a good idea, but I doubt they would do it unless it was necessary or vulnerable.

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          18 days ago

          Thanks for the links! apparently apple seems to deal with breaches quite well, and at least in the firewall times article most of the Breaches were not on really caused by apple and they reacted anyways. Exceptions are the pegasus hack, but no software is secure, and the exploit got patched.

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            18 days ago

            surr… that’s how breach timelines go in general, it’s a lot easier to “hack” lax security procedures directly or for third parties that Apple or Microsoft shares sensitive information with than it is to attack any database directly.

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                11 days ago

                hasn’t worked yet, 2fa doesn’t help with third-party breaches, and apparently doesn’t help secure Apple’s back end either.

                they’ve got to invest more in basic security infrastructure instead of placing the burden on the consumer, but I don’t think that’s going to happen either, since apple consumers are still happy getting breached every year.

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                  11 days ago

                  and what do you personally use? which company is up to your high security standards?

                  because i read the same breaches with android powered phones, web browsers, windows… etc.

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                    11 days ago

                    are you John Apple?

                    is there some reason you’re taking personal offense at Apple’s security failings?

                    you thought ios was secure.

                    it isn’t. ho hum.