• Carrolade@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Whether someone is informed or not is something that can be objectively analyzed. It had nothing to do with responsibility or guilt. Either they know or they don’t, it is an entirely separate topic whose fault that is.

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      8 hours ago

      court: so you then hit the victim seventeen times in the head with a hammer. what do you have to say for yourself.

      defendant: I didn’t know that hitting a person that many times would kill them. I saw it happen on Looney Tunes hundreds of times and thought they would be fine.

      so by your own admission the defendant should be let go because they can’t be held responsible or guilty because they were uneducated and/or misinformed?

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        6 hours ago

        No, I’m saying that discussion of innocence and guilt is a pointless distraction from the important parts of the conversation. It’s irrelevant, it doesn’t matter. There is nothing illegal about listening to gop bullshit, so it’s a pointless red herring to focus so heavily on it.

        What do you perceive the benefit of focusing on guilt to be? What’s the point?

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          2 hours ago

          why are you so focused on the guilt aspect?

          nobody is getting charged here. Their first amendment right is still virginal. Nobody is going to take your guns, it’s ok. we’re discussing our opinions on the internet like good little boys, girls, tboys, tgirls, nonboys, nongirls, right? (apologies if I left anyone out)

          the point remains that those people acted of their own free will. they failed their responsibility to identify a major threat to the continued stability of our nation and instead let a megalomaniac gain power over our highest seat if power, AGAIN.

          these people did what they thought was best based on propaganda. their primary source of information comes from a documented and well known worldwide propaganda machine.

          they have had hundreds if not thousands of chances to identify that they are being manipulated but refuse to see reason.

          you’re going to lose it on the next part.

          they are guilty of being willfully ignorant and refusing to learn. they will never go to jail for it, they will never have their rights taken away for it. but, they will be judged by society. they will be seen as, less than American.

          Because real Americans stand up against bullies. Real Americans stop at nothing to block fascist dictators from taking over their nation. Real Americans vote.

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            36 minutes ago

            I’m asking about guilt because you are so laser focused on it. Why? What is the value you see in focusing on it? What does it matter who is at fault for them being uninformed, so long as we understand they are uninformed?

            I’m saying we know they are uninformed, and it does not matter who is at fault for that. You keep bringing up how it is their fault, though. Responsibility, fault, guilt, call it whatever you want. Why do you care so much about it specifically? Do you see “uninformed” as some sort of excuse perhaps?