• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Americans overwhelmingly—but, it turns out, mistakenly—believe that Democrats care more about advancing progressive social issues than widely shared economic ones.

    Yeah. They don’t care about advancing any progressive issues at all.

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      13 days ago

      I’m hoping you forgot the /s. They definitely could be far better, but to say they don’t care about any of it is just untrue, and reeks of ultra-leftist “all or nothing NOW” attitudes.

      As far as the article quote goes, I think it needs tweaking. The attitude many people have that Democrats care about progressive issues is mainly reenforced by comparing them to their only serious political competition, which by comparison makes Democrats generally seem like the party of good Samaritans when they’re really just somewhat more reasonable than their opposition.

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        I’m hoping you forgot the /s. They definitely could be far better, but to say they don’t care about any of it is just untrue, and reeks of ultra-leftist “all or nothing NOW” attitudes.

        How many more fucking decades does it take before we’re allowed to run out of patience?

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          It resets with each major setback. Until you prevent people from routinely electing the worst options for your goals, the second-worst option in what is basically only a two-party system is always gonna have someone else to shift the blame onto. Without an INCREDIBLY major change in attitude of the vast majority of the voting populace, there will DEFINITELY be a civil war if you try to immediately impose a full set of leftist ideals in full. Too many people are just not even open to that shit, let alone ready to embrace it.

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            What happens when there’s a setback that’s major enough to be considered potentially permanent - for instance, the recent election?

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              The ability to make amendments to the Constitution ensures no change is actually permanent. If enough people come around on the subject, any change can be undone or revised.

              Unfortunately, the people who voted for those making the undesired change will likely never fully appreciate - or be in any significant way held accountable for - the damage done by their reckless choice in who they supported to run the country into the ground. Those who knew better, lost, and had their lives destroyed will likely never receive any recompense.

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                Isn’t “the constitution” itself a “permanent change” though? At least while violently enforcable?

                A broken system will never amend itself.

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            Without an INCREDIBLY major change in attitude of the vast majority of the voting populace, there will DEFINITELY be a civil war if you try to immediately impose a full set of leftist ideals in full.

            Good thing Democrats aren’t interested in the slightest in implementing anything to the left of the current status quo then. You’re in no danger at all.