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    It’s bad when even RBG was saying roe shouldn’t have been used as law. The dems have had a ton of times to solidify it into law via the proper channels but won’t because it gets votes.

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      Have they, though?

      It wasn’t because it gets votes, but because it loses votes. People will strongly object to one thing a hell of a lot faster than they’ll give you credit for doing anything. Look at Biden’s entire administration. We handled post-covid inflation* better than any other developed nation, but he didn’t get credit for the 90% he fixed. He got shit on for the 10% left to go.

      * And I’d argue a good chunk of that inflation was the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP), the bipartisan bill Trump signed into law while rejecting the oversight the Dems wanted. That was the biggest corporate giveaway in our nation’s history. Literally just giving public money to private corporations. A step far beyond “privatize profits, socialize losses”.

      Dems believed, reasonably, that Roe was settled and wasn’t in imminent danger. Holding a vote on that just pushes people away. Of course, in hindsight, they should have done it anyway. But as you can tell from this past election, and all the states that went red while passing women’s rights legislation, having the issue out there is not getting them votes.

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        There is probably 1% of dems who are pro-life. The mass majority is pro-choice. This is like saying people who vote repubs are anti-gun. Dems have had a ton of chances to solidify it into law, which is way harder to remove.

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                22 hours ago

                Im reading this one.

                Democrats’ Views on Legality of Abortion, 1975-2024

                Which has abortion illegal as 3%.

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                  Democrats’ Self-ID on Abortion, 1995-2024

                  12% pro-life in 2024. 34% in 2012.

                  Going by

                  Democrats’ Views on Legality of Abortion, 1975-2024

                  It’s 61% pro-choice, 31% limited abortion, 3% totally illegal in 2024

                  It’s 40% pro-choice, 41% limited abortion, 13% totally illegal in 2012

                  Compare that to

                  Republicans’ Views on Legality of Abortion, 1975-2024

                  12% pro-choice, 64% limited abortion, 23% totally illegal in 2024

                  9% pro-choice, 61% limited abortion, 28% totally illegal in 2012

                  Unless we’re going to count the GOP both now and then as a pro-choice party, the fact is that the Dems being majority pro-choice is a recent phenomenon.

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                    True, I just see pro-life people as all forms as illegal. Where as limited to me is still pro-choice because that phrasing could mean people who agree that 3rd trimester shouldn’t be allowed type of opinion, as they do in most of the EU.