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    Would that be propaganda in favor of Communism, who’s every real world iteration so far has led to corruption, tyranny, and human rights abuse on a scale that would put Capitalism’s to shame? Gwon you’re making us blush. Oh, you talking about aspirational Communism, but not actual real life experienced Communism, lol. Yes, that’s what we need, fairy tales of the world to come, like Christianity.

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      corruption, tyranny, and human rights abuse on a scale that would put Capitalism’s to shame?

      Funny how you’re describing capitalism and trying to pretend you’re not.

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      Ah yes the only two possible political systems, Chinese style autocracy or American Style Oligarchy.

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        Clearly if it hasn’t been implemented before and doesn’t currently exist today, it’s impossible to ever happen. We live at the end of history, you see.

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          We live at the end of history, you see.

          You say that in jest, but human civilization is coming apart on easy paradise mode, and even then it took us about 200,000 years of wandering around in the dirt to even start trying, and in trying we’re irrevocably destroying the place eyes wide open.

          The idea that humanity will exist as more than scattered animals clinging to old hardened structures having destroyed our temperate climate for millions of years is laughable. The insurance industry is having a stroke about its continued survival after just a few of the teensiest little tastes of our good, irreversible work.

          The long arm of recorded history is ending, by our own capitalist hands, for short term profit.

          We’re literally razing the forest so there will be no shade for future generations, only clinging to base survival on a hostile planet they probably won’t even know their ancestors were directly responsible for.

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            Relax, bro.

            The octopi will inherit the Earth, and one day pick through our ruins!

            Assuming they evolve the ability to actually live after breeding at least. Kind of important for creating an enduring culture and educational system, though I suppose they might just evolve biological immortality first instead.

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      on a scale that would put Capitalism’s to shame

      You say that like capitalism isn’t ongoing massacres and abuse in various forms all day, every day. As if the t-shirt you’re probably wearing wasn’t made by someone who’s exploited in Bangladesh so that minimum wage Americans can still afford to buy it without forgoing food because they’re purposely underpaid by service industry corporations. As though you’re not also talking about some sort of aspirational capitalism where the “free market” actually exists and doesn’t inevitably lead to corruption and tyranny…

      Meanwhile, the richest man in the world is about to secure control over US government agencies because he gave the most money to the current president.

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        You say that like capitalism isn’t ongoing massacres and abuse in various forms all day, every day.

        OOhh, but it’s not capitalism’ fault!! It’s just stuff happening that’s totally unrelated to capitalism!!! <- answer I got to a similar discussion back in ~2014. Either that or “a few bad apples” when complaining about shitty companies.

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        How dare you? Those billion dollar corpos are doing you a favor by paying a “just good enough” wages to allow you to eat.