President in effect endorses ethnic cleansing of territory before hosting meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu

Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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  • tankfox@midwest.socialEnglish
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    4 hours ago

    Rewrite your comment except make it about “the Jews” re: the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. How does it sound when you frame it that way?

    The point of the original comparison was to draw attention to how you’re equating the militant groups involved with Oct. 7 (Hamas, PIJ) with the ENTIRE Palestinian people, which includes not only people under Hamas rule, in the West Bank, and in the international Palestinian diaspora. Was that not clear?

    Yes, this is not clear. The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising is an invalid comparison to Oct 7th, and your further attempts to compare the two fall flat and in fact manage to further vilify Hamas and Gaza who have been attempting to ignite this very war for the majority of my adult life by shooting an unending barrage of rockets and mortars at civilian targets while using their countrymen as willing human shields

    • dx1@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      4 hours ago

      It is in fact not invalid. Hamas’s rockets have been untargeted with next to zero actual civilian casualties, the purpose is to financially exhaust the “Iron Dome” system. And it’s completely dishonest to frame it as “starting” a war, when the Occupied Palestinian territories, including Gaza, are under “Israeli” occupation per the definitions under international law (don’t give me that “they took out their settlements in 2005” crap either).

      • tankfox@midwest.socialEnglish
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        3 hours ago

        Hamas’s rockets have been untargeted with next to zero actual civilian casualties, the purpose is to financially exhaust the “Iron Dome” system.

        Your statement is a logical contradiction. The Iron Dome does not activate when the projected path of the rocket does not appear to target civilians, so the only way to activate Iron Dome is to target civilians. Untargeted would imply that they’re just sending them in random directions which is obviously not the case. No surprise though since Gaza has been intentionally targeting civilians since 1950. One could say almost exclusively targeting civilians. They’ve been begging for exactly what they finally got, but they hoped for a repeat of the six day war with a happier ending. Imagine that each bomb dropped on Gaza today is a refund of a bomb that has been thrown at Israel over the last 20 years, the difference is that Israel has bigger bombs and Hamas has known this the whole time.

        The internet loves videos of a little guy picking on a bigger stronger guy and then getting smashed into paste for his trouble. That’s how this looks. Y’all were doing so well being sympathetic victims EVEN WITH the constant rocket barrage, then you took it too far and now it’s the find out phase.

        To bring this back to the subject of your vote for Trump; Israel exists in its current form as a projection of American influence, from its very inception this was intended to be the case. Its very existence relies on the fact that the usa can use Israel as a base of operations when it comes to keeping the flow of oil moving, and as long as that area has oil that we want this is going to continue regardless of anything else. Not voting for the people who have some shame and want it soft lands you with the people with no shame who wouldn’t scrape a dead Gazian child off their shoe, and that’s where we are right now.

        • dx1@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          3 hours ago

          Your statement is a logical contradiction. The Iron Dome does not activate when the projected path of the rocket does not appear to target civilians

          It does, actually, it performs a triage when it can’t handle a large number of simultaneous projectiles, and of COURSE it’s designed to intercept missiles sent to military targets. What a bizarre claim. You are flat out making things up to support your argument, for god knows what reason.

          Y’all were doing so well being sympathetic

          I’m not Palestinian. I’m an impartial observer of what’s happening, just one who cares more than most of you, enough to sort through disinformation…

          subject of your vote for Trump

          Just flat out lying now. I’m done here.

          • tankfox@midwest.socialEnglish
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            3 hours ago

            Maybe I spoke a bit too fast, if the rocket from Gaza looks like it’s not going to fall on anybody, the Iron Dome does not turn on. So to make the Iron Dome turn on, Gaza has to point the rockets at people. Does that make more sense to you? Your reply doesn’t make sense in this context so I feel like you’re confused.

            Just flat out lying now. I’m done here.

            It’s a two party system, so if you didn’t vote for the loser you effectively voted for the winner. You should be used to logical leaps enough to understand that; if you can vote, your vote matters even if you don’t use it. Not using it is a choice, and choices have consequences.