you have to respect everyone’s pronouns, even if you think they are trolling, because its not up for debate and you don’t get to set conditions before you start calling someone by the right […].
The issue is, they are up to debate. You cannot have your pronoun be a 1000 character long word, or a slur, and expect other people to respect it, even though they can, few probably will.
The existence of these obvious scenarios means that you shouldn’t claim to respect everyone’s pronouns, when there are times where you wouldn’t.
Respect of pronouns is not binary. It is a gradient.
An instance or community can choose rules somewhere on the gradient, but if you choose to allow all, then you will suffer similar issues to those who who claim to “tolerate all” types of behavior on their instance.
Just don’t choose an absolute stance, and then these issues won’t arise.
Yeah. I get where the whole “we’re going to make a hard-and-fast universal rule” decision came from. But that’s just not how life works. You have to leave room for people to make decisions based on their own common sense and judgement, and resist the temptation to lay down a rule for them that they MUST ALWAYS FOLLOW OR THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES to make everything simple and conflict-free.
I have moved on from the whole debate, lest I get in trouble and cause pointless drama. But yes, that is exactly the crux of the matter.
The issue is, they are up to debate. You cannot have your pronoun be a 1000 character long word, or a slur, and expect other people to respect it, even though they can, few probably will.
The existence of these obvious scenarios means that you shouldn’t claim to respect everyone’s pronouns, when there are times where you wouldn’t.
Respect of pronouns is not binary. It is a gradient. An instance or community can choose rules somewhere on the gradient, but if you choose to allow all, then you will suffer similar issues to those who who claim to “tolerate all” types of behavior on their instance.
Just don’t choose an absolute stance, and then these issues won’t arise.
Yeah. I get where the whole “we’re going to make a hard-and-fast universal rule” decision came from. But that’s just not how life works. You have to leave room for people to make decisions based on their own common sense and judgement, and resist the temptation to lay down a rule for them that they MUST ALWAYS FOLLOW OR THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES to make everything simple and conflict-free.
I have moved on from the whole debate, lest I get in trouble and cause pointless drama. But yes, that is exactly the crux of the matter.