• Adanisi@lemmy.zip
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    16 hours ago

    I’m obviously going to be downvoted for this, but the second you ask me to use the terminal is the second the OS is not ready.

    Well then I suppose Windows is not ready if every update you need to run a PowerShell script to debloat and disable telemetry.

    I spent a few hours in terminal trying to install something after trying everything in flatpak.

    And you didn’t consider to use the graphical package manager which can do the same thing?

    Windows 11 split screens out of the box. It can even tile. You can even use hotkeys to snap left and right.

    So can I, on KDE Plasma. Admittedly, I don’t know what the situation on Cinnamon is.

    In order for normies like me to switch, you have to make the OS at as easy to use as Windows.

    For non power user use-cases it is absolutely possible to use as easily as Windows.

    Respectfully, please dont spread misinformation about what Linux is and is not capable of.

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      The mass majority of normies don’t need to run PowerShell or debloat. A even bigger mass of people have no clue what telemetry is to even disable it. I think before we both disagree with each other, we should agree with one thing. Regular, non tinkerers people, normies have different needs, none of which Linux has a advantage on.

      Can KDE snap to 3 screens evenly? Or4? Or 1/4, 1/2, 1/4? Because Win11 does it out of the box.

      KDE Snapping left and right is nice. Windows 7 has this feature. Maybe even Win98.

      I started with the GUI flatpak interface first and after those apps didn’t work, I went to google/forums. At the end of the day, I still didn’t accomplish a simple task Win11 has out of the box.

      You saying I’m spreading misinformation implies you don’t acknowledge my frustrations and grievances. This is perfectly fine if we all acknowledge that Linux is not made for regular people and memes like this is actually harmful to your community. If someone has a misconception that Linux is now equal in feature sets and usability, this user is going to not try again for another 15 years.

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        Regular, non tinkerers people, normies have different needs, none of which Linux has a advantage on.

        Speed, privacy, old hardware support, benefits from community modifications (gaming performance kernels etc).

        Can KDE snap to 3 screens evenly? Or4? Or 1/4, 1/2, 1/4? Because Win11 does it out of the box.

        Yes

        I started with the GUI flatpak interface first and after those apps didn’t work, I went to google/forums. At the end of the day, I still didn’t accomplish a simple task Win11 has out of the box.

        I still dont understand what you were trying to achieve that you couldn’t have done, at worst, in Synaptic package manager (a GUI program).

        You saying I’m spreading misinformation implies you don’t acknowledge my frustrations and grievances.

        I don’t mean to say you’re doing it intentionally, just that when you state Linux can’t do these things it’s not exactly correct.

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          Regular, non tinkerers people, normies have different needs, none of which Linux has a advantage on.

          Speed, privacy, old hardware support, benefits from community modifications (gaming performance kernels etc).

          Speed is relative to the task. On my window’s machine, I’m running a 7 year old gaming computer and never thought that my computer is super slow. Also, after installing Mint on it, the speed is barely noticeable at best.

          Old hardware support? Shoot, Mint could barely get new hardware working properly. I had trouble with both my nvidia card and my logitech steering wheel working correctly. I eventually got the Nvidia card working using chatgpt. It took me a few days, but the steering wheel finally started working after reinstalling Windows.

          Also, as far as gaming is concerned. You performance might see a few fps faster on Linux on some games, but if you enjoy games like Rocket League or Fortnite or many multiplayer games, it flat out doesn’t work.

          Can KDE snap to 3 screens evenly? Or4? Or 1/4, 1/2, 1/4? Because Win11 does it out of the box.

          Yes

          Good, I can check it out. Mint and PopOS and Ubuntu does not have this feature.

          I started with the GUI flatpak interface first and after those apps didn’t work, I went to google/forums. At the end of the day, I still didn’t accomplish a simple task Win11 has out of the box.

          I still dont understand what you were trying to achieve that you couldn’t have done, at worst, in Synaptic package manager (a GUI program).

          I’m trying to snap my windows to different ratios or tile out of the box. Mint, PopOS and Ubuntu does not have these features and I was trying to install it first from Flatpak and then in apt-get. Both failed.

          You saying I’m spreading misinformation implies you don’t acknowledge my frustrations and grievances.

          I don’t mean to say you’re doing it intentionally, just that when you state Linux can’t do these things it’s not exactly correct.

          What is inaccurate? That I had a hard time trying to install a very basic feature on Mint and failed? Seems pretty straight forward.

          Don’t get me started on installing Tailscale. While I was ultimately successful doing this in terminal, I would not want my mother in law trying to figure it out.