It’s not just “DT”… Genocide Joe was attacking students too. They’re both just continuing decades of pro-genocide policies. Basically every politician is on the AIPAC payroll. Almost zero politicians are standing up for these students.
“Scientist” as a general concept doesn’t have an inherent positive or negative value. Some scientists have invented things that saved lives or expanded our understanding of the universe. Others experimented on prisoners, or developed addicting drugs for big pharma. Personally I’d say scientists are more likely to resemble the first, not the second, but what defines the value is not the profession, but the actions they take as individuals.
His comment appeared to describe the issues with approval of scientists as a baseline, when the capitalist system they’re trapped within has other incentives and agendas. It’s a point one can certainly disagree with, but it is a coherent argument.
I’d imagine for the same reasons that people study the past and try and understand how events unfold. People still mention the name Chamberlain when discussing the rise of the third reich for instance.
When Snowden released his collection of files way back when, he made the argument that the panopticon that was being built wasn’t being used in the worst way at the time of his decision to whistleblow. But his point was that the construction of such tools could not be justified based on their eventual use by a worse form of American govt.
When the liberal mainstream—and this includes Biden, major media, and most other center/center-left politicians and pundits over the last year and a half—presided over the framing of anti-semitism as the act of being critical of Israeli govt actions and supported that govt in a year long punishment campaign to destroy an ethnic group, they normalized the positions that are now being used to deport green card holders and leverage higher ed into submission. Free speech on this issue was fought over last year, and generally, the anti-free speech side won.
It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re worse, or even equal in vileness to the current admin, but it is a point worth recognizing. Enshrining Trump, as horrid as he is, as an exception may be comforting, but it removes the broader narrative that brought our present about. If we don’t work to understand this sequence with clear eyed judgment, our resistance to it will likely fail.
If one cannot learn from history, it will repeat. The actions that led to this moment are important to understand if one wants to be able to counter them and avoid them in the future.
You may not be technically wrong, but whataboutism in the face of the new Nazi regime will likely not be well-received. It’s hard to make any reasonable comparison between Biden and the abject authoritarianism happening today with the Trump admin and DOGE.
Nobody stands up for students, and it’s getting far worse under Trump. I don’t see what Biden has to do with that.
Well the fact is that we tried “vote blue no matter who” and it failed. The dems won’t even bot do genocide so what’s the point? That’s how less engaged people think, the ones who aren’t debating politics online. Voting for Chuck schumer isn’t gonna fix anything
When you realize Trump represents what Biden represents which is what Obama, Clinton, Bush etc… Then you’ll realize that USA has always been evil. Trump is simply saying out loud the quiet part. To show my point I’ll list a bunch of things they all did in unison.
Genocide, not one president didn’t genocide Arabs. Not one. Obama started 5 wars in the middle East, look at how Syria is turning out because of US interference.
All of them talk about China as a great war engine. A country that has not gone to war in over 40 years.
They all spread lies about human rights issues in other nations as well as force their allies to confirm what they’re saying. Though hilariously Trump isn’t doing well on that last part.
But you know, we should keep thinking our votes matter, so let’s not whataboutism, just lay the blame on the current administration.
Edit. I take back a little bit of what I said. The biggest difference with Trump is the American people are suffering too. At least with prior presidents, they stole resources for America. Trump does not seem to be doing that part and that’s why more people are upset.
It’s not just “DT”… Genocide Joe was attacking students too. They’re both just continuing decades of pro-genocide policies. Basically every politician is on the AIPAC payroll. Almost zero politicians are standing up for these students.
It’s literally the entire fascist state.
Why the fuck is anyone (other than a provocateur) talking about Biden???
GTFO troll.
Tagged as propagandist.
Yeah, they were railing against scientists in another thread, technocrit is braindead
“Scientist” as a general concept doesn’t have an inherent positive or negative value. Some scientists have invented things that saved lives or expanded our understanding of the universe. Others experimented on prisoners, or developed addicting drugs for big pharma. Personally I’d say scientists are more likely to resemble the first, not the second, but what defines the value is not the profession, but the actions they take as individuals.
His comment appeared to describe the issues with approval of scientists as a baseline, when the capitalist system they’re trapped within has other incentives and agendas. It’s a point one can certainly disagree with, but it is a coherent argument.
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Sorry, technocrit is contextually braindead.
I’d imagine for the same reasons that people study the past and try and understand how events unfold. People still mention the name Chamberlain when discussing the rise of the third reich for instance.
When Snowden released his collection of files way back when, he made the argument that the panopticon that was being built wasn’t being used in the worst way at the time of his decision to whistleblow. But his point was that the construction of such tools could not be justified based on their eventual use by a worse form of American govt.
When the liberal mainstream—and this includes Biden, major media, and most other center/center-left politicians and pundits over the last year and a half—presided over the framing of anti-semitism as the act of being critical of Israeli govt actions and supported that govt in a year long punishment campaign to destroy an ethnic group, they normalized the positions that are now being used to deport green card holders and leverage higher ed into submission. Free speech on this issue was fought over last year, and generally, the anti-free speech side won.
It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re worse, or even equal in vileness to the current admin, but it is a point worth recognizing. Enshrining Trump, as horrid as he is, as an exception may be comforting, but it removes the broader narrative that brought our present about. If we don’t work to understand this sequence with clear eyed judgment, our resistance to it will likely fail.
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Donald Trump does something evil. Random internet troll must ‘both sides’ it, instead of calling out the evil in front of their face.
Enlightened centrist DNA
If one cannot learn from history, it will repeat. The actions that led to this moment are important to understand if one wants to be able to counter them and avoid them in the future.
You may not be technically wrong, but whataboutism in the face of the new Nazi regime will likely not be well-received. It’s hard to make any reasonable comparison between Biden and the abject authoritarianism happening today with the Trump admin and DOGE.
Nobody stands up for students, and it’s getting far worse under Trump. I don’t see what Biden has to do with that.
Well the fact is that we tried “vote blue no matter who” and it failed. The dems won’t even bot do genocide so what’s the point? That’s how less engaged people think, the ones who aren’t debating politics online. Voting for Chuck schumer isn’t gonna fix anything
When you realize Trump represents what Biden represents which is what Obama, Clinton, Bush etc… Then you’ll realize that USA has always been evil. Trump is simply saying out loud the quiet part. To show my point I’ll list a bunch of things they all did in unison.
Genocide, not one president didn’t genocide Arabs. Not one. Obama started 5 wars in the middle East, look at how Syria is turning out because of US interference.
All of them talk about China as a great war engine. A country that has not gone to war in over 40 years.
They all spread lies about human rights issues in other nations as well as force their allies to confirm what they’re saying. Though hilariously Trump isn’t doing well on that last part.
But you know, we should keep thinking our votes matter, so let’s not whataboutism, just lay the blame on the current administration.
Edit. I take back a little bit of what I said. The biggest difference with Trump is the American people are suffering too. At least with prior presidents, they stole resources for America. Trump does not seem to be doing that part and that’s why more people are upset.