The part where none of that shit matters if you’re stuck between two tyrants who both want your land and want to kill you for it. So you want the guy that has been killing you, or the guy that might kill you later?
That’s not what they were stuck between. This weird rewriting of history with Ukraine as an independent entity at that time is very strange. They were part of the USSR then and before that the Russian Empire for hundreds of years. Many Ukrainians died fighting off that genocidal Nazi threat and it’s a disservice to those millions to give shelter to these autogenocidal collaborationist motherfuckers.
[edit] And it wasn’t “might kill you later.” The Nazis killed 4 million Ukrainians and 11 million total Slavic people.
Are you kidding me? You are looking for the ‘grey area’ in the murder of 11 million people. Do not think you are in a position to pass judgement over me.
Oh? Then why are you trying to draw parallels between Ukraine and Finland, a country that was not invaded and ethnically cleansed by Nazi Germany? Two situations which are not comparable and where suggesting that one is like the other minimizes the murder of those 11 million people.
They’re not compatible in YOUR opinion. In my opinion they are. Both countries were full of people who wanted independence. Both countries saw USSR as a bigger threat to them then Nazi Germany. As tragic as the Holocaust is, normal grunts like you and weren’t aware of it, so it was completely irrelevant to the decision making. Both countries needed help against their enemy. Both went to get help from the enemies of their enemies.
Nazis were bad. But at the time we didn’t know that. It was just another country. We can take lessons from that about being pickier about our allies, but at that time, to those people, Germany just seemed like someone who could help against the Russians.
Yeah, so in your opinion working with the genocidal force that murdered 11 million Slavs, 4 million of those being Ukrainian, and enslaved millions more is justifiable. AKA you are a genocide apologist.
Sorry, can you point out the grey part?
The part where none of that shit matters if you’re stuck between two tyrants who both want your land and want to kill you for it. So you want the guy that has been killing you, or the guy that might kill you later?
That’s not what they were stuck between. This weird rewriting of history with Ukraine as an independent entity at that time is very strange. They were part of the USSR then and before that the Russian Empire for hundreds of years. Many Ukrainians died fighting off that genocidal Nazi threat and it’s a disservice to those millions to give shelter to these autogenocidal collaborationist motherfuckers.
[edit] And it wasn’t “might kill you later.” The Nazis killed 4 million Ukrainians and 11 million total Slavic people.
Can’t argue with the iron curtain of that logic.
Are you kidding me? You are looking for the ‘grey area’ in the murder of 11 million people. Do not think you are in a position to pass judgement over me.
If you think that anything in my comment was talking about those 11 million people, then you have very poor reading comprehension.
Oh? Then why are you trying to draw parallels between Ukraine and Finland, a country that was not invaded and ethnically cleansed by Nazi Germany? Two situations which are not comparable and where suggesting that one is like the other minimizes the murder of those 11 million people.
They’re not compatible in YOUR opinion. In my opinion they are. Both countries were full of people who wanted independence. Both countries saw USSR as a bigger threat to them then Nazi Germany. As tragic as the Holocaust is, normal grunts like you and weren’t aware of it, so it was completely irrelevant to the decision making. Both countries needed help against their enemy. Both went to get help from the enemies of their enemies.
Nazis were bad. But at the time we didn’t know that. It was just another country. We can take lessons from that about being pickier about our allies, but at that time, to those people, Germany just seemed like someone who could help against the Russians.
Yeah, so in your opinion working with the genocidal force that murdered 11 million Slavs, 4 million of those being Ukrainian, and enslaved millions more is justifiable. AKA you are a genocide apologist.