• fkn@lemmy.worldM
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    Except when combined with your previous post it denotes, excludes, marginalizes and codifies a race of people in a way that just isn’t true for many modern black Americans.

    Black Americans are not necessarily descendents of slaves. Some black Americans that are descendents of slaves are no more African than I am(or I am as African as they are depending on how you want to say it). Many black Americans are as much European as they are African (through the 1 drop rulings and the often raped slaves)… And all of this denies the black Americans existence since slavery. The unique situation of black Americans, where national origin is irrelevant… It is purely a white privilege to say that “white” or “black” is not a race. It’s tantamount to saying that Nazis only killed white people.

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      white or black is not a race. there are no races.

      Nazis killed many people from diverse backgrounds with self proclaimed or imposed identities. They were (and their neos are) despicable

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            1 year ago

            No. Straight up racism. ~You are a racist.~

            Edit: I should have said:

            You are espousing racist viewpoints and a racist worldview.

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              so, according to you, writing that “there are no races” and refusing to categorize people into this or that race is racist?

              Believing that there are races and calling people who don’t adhere to your views “racist” is sick.

              the world doesn’t need to conform to american social constructions. Look where it took that (your?) society

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                  I think his point is that the biological definition of “race” cannot be applied to humans as we are all biologically one race with different phenotypes (skin color etc). It’s a bit of a pedantical discussion about semantics, but I think neither of you are racist.

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                    Irrelevant.

                    Denying the social construct of race and it’s implications for those groups is erasure of those groups and is racism. Not recognizing this is a huge red flag.

                    I think my comments about “Nazis only killed white people.” Is being misunderstood. It’s not that the Nazis didn’t kill other ethnic groups… It’s that it’s denying that Nazis targeted Jews.

                    Denial of the concept of the "Jewish* race, from a biological standpoint or otherwise, is racism. That’s what this kind of thinking ends up getting to. The denial of the social constructs that exist causes the erasure of cultures and atrocities that those constructed groups face.

                    It is irrelevant if there is a biological basis for race.

                    White people in America sterilized black women until the 90s in medical procedures. Denying that there was a racial basis for this is erasure.