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    This kind of shit was a big motivation for me to leave reddit, and now it’s already on Lemmy. Great.

    You can have right leaning beliefs and not be a bigot. Hell, I’m not even right leaning but many of my friends and family are. They are not racist, sexist, transphobic… This kind of post just makes the left look childish.

    ETA: you can have conservative views and not vote republican. The republican party is a fucking joke.

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      If right-leaning, but not bigoted, there is a lot of space within the Democrats for that, and always has been.

      Which is less than ideal, as the GOP remains populated by a mix of extremists & the grossly inattentive, Democrats yanked well to the right of centre, and the left utterly stymied.

      But, the point remains that if someone is turning a blind eye to the harm being waged against their fellow Americans in favour of some nebulous lean (which the GOP’s consistently do not bother to address anyhow), then arguably they are far worse than a bigot, who at least one can consider to be haplessly hate-filled, rather than blithely lending support to the hate-filled.

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      No, what we look like is people who’ve tried to give the benefit of the doubt for ages and gotten fucked for it. We’ve run out of benefit to give. Conservatives are actively hurting people in North America (probably elsewhere too) and we see ourselves and our children on the chopping block if we keep giving leeway. So we’ve stopped. You’ll keep seeing more of this until conservatives stop hurting people. This meme is just a funny reflection of that. Maybe it’s even gonna make some gears spin in some people’s heads.

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        Exactly! You cannot support that party and be surprised when you get called a bigot. You’re playing with pigs and you smell like shit, bud. Conservative values eventually turn into hateful ideology 100% of the time. Conservatism requires someone to blame for everything, and they never blame the people actually at fault, they blame minority groups that are easy to attack and exploit.

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      Sure you can lean conservative but if in the modern era you’re supporting and voting republican you’re either in denial, or complicit. There’s not much the Republicans have in common with conservative values these days.

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        Exactly. What’s so conservatism about trying to murder congress and overthrow American democracy again, like what happened on Jan. 6? These traitors sure aren’t trying to preserve the Union, that’s for damn sure.

    • HornyOnMain🏳️‍⚧️@lemmy.ml
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      it’s already on Lemmy

      Lemmy was created by communists for communists, conservatives, “centrists” and liberals gtfo out

      You can have right leaning beliefs and not be a bigot

      the entirety of conservativism is openly classist, the entire ideology is built on ruthlessly attacking and stripping away protection for those most vulnerable in society. Besides, just because your family wont openly call me a slur for being trans it doesnt mean they aren’t supporting a party who market themselves on wanting to strip away my rights. Frankly, you cant be pro-american at all without implicitly supporting the horrific crimes they have historically committed whether within their own borders or outside.

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      Your friends and family might not be vocally bigoted, but actions speak louder than words and if they’re voting for a party that platforms on racism, sexism, and transphobia, then they are bigots. I hardly think it’s childish to avoid dating someone who would support a party that wants to strip your rights away.

      Also, Lemmy has always been like this. You came to the wrong fuckin’ place, my dude.

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      “Many of [your friends and family]” vote for legalizing racism, sexism, and now literally the attempted overthrow of the United States of America. If your friends and family vote for that and vote for taking away peoples human rights, they’re terrible people. Maybe they’re nice to you but they’re actively ruining other people’s lives. Your cowardice in continuating to associate with, tolerate, and defend these people and their evil behaviors is childish. “But! but! some of my friends are in the Schutzstaffel, they can’t be all bad!” Grow up.

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      I don’t see how people who aren’t racist, sexist or transphobic could vote for conservatives when 75% of Republican campaigning (other than “guns and taxes!”) is focused on being racist, sexist and transphobic. People who aren’t any of those things are turned off by it and would not vote for republicans.

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      I agree, the “holier than thou” attitude is really gross. I was hoping this was going to be less of an echo chamber than Reddit but it’s starting to look like it’s worse. Let’s blow this popsicle stand bro I’m out of here

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        One of the most self-damning things about Republicans is how quick they are to start defending allegations of bigotry, racism, sexism, transphobia, treason against America, etc. upon the first mention of conservatism, without noticing that they’re usually the first to bring up those topics. It’s almost like the very concept of conservatism and bigotry against people for their “station” at birth are inseparable, and any attempt to pretend otherwise is just that: pretend.