• Telorand@reddthat.com
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    Except Horseshoe Theory is hot garbage. “Both Sides” is what lazy people come up with. That’s like saying hot and cold are practically the same, because they are both temperatures.

    https://theconversation.com/horseshoe-theory-is-nonsense-the-far-right-and-far-left-have-little-in-common-77588

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory#Academic_studies_and_criticism

    Fuck off with your victimization complex, and go educate yourself.

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        And remember when they kept claiming election fraud long after they lost, and brought 60+ lawsuits, and called Secretaries of State to “find me X votes,”, and tried to get the vice president to decertify peoples votes, and tried to send fake Electors to vote for them, and planned to use the Insurrection Act to stay in power?

        But please, go off about how they’re fundamentally the same.

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          when they kept claiming election fraud long after they lost

          Which is also in the video I provided.

          brought 60+ lawsuits

          The Democratic Party itself sued Trump claiming his election was illegitimate.

          called Secretaries of State to “find me X votes,”

          So a recount, lol.

          tried to get the vice president to decertify peoples votes

          Democrats did the same thing for Trump — it’s literally within the first two minutes of the video that you apparently neglected to watch.

          tried to send fake Electors to vote for them

          Democrats tried to get republican electors to reject their oath and vote against the actual election results — very democratic, right?

          planned to use the Insurrection Act to stay in power

          Which they didn’t, lmfao.

          So yeah, as to the issue of complaining about election fraud, they are fundamentally the same. Got any more areas that you want me to remind you of the democratic equivalent for, or would you prefer to actually watch the primary source that you pretty blatantly disregarded before posting all that?

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            when they kept claiming election fraud long after they lost

            Which is also in the video I provided.

            And wouldn’t you know it? They stopped. Meanwhile Trump is still beating that drum.

            brought 60+ lawsuits

            The Democratic Party itself sued Trump claiming his election was illegitimate.

            Last I checked, 60 > 1. Also, they had real evidence. Trump had The Kraken.

            called Secretaries of State to “find me X votes,”

            So a recount, lol.

            Yeah, such a “perfect call,” it landed him RICO charges in GA and two other upcoming similar cases in NV and LA. But yeah, jUsT a ReCoUnT.

            tried to send fake Electors to vote for them.

            Democrats tried to get republican electors to reject their oath and vote against the actual election results — very democratic, right?

            No. And I’ll be the first to say they made some idiotic moves. But that’s not the same as trying to send fake certificates and a fake slate of Electors, which has landed some of those electors in legal jeopardy. Both bad, magnitude very different.

            planned to use the Insurrection Act to stay in power

            Which they didn’t, lmfao.

            Oh, soooo much better. It’s a good thing Project 2025 doesn’t exist… Also, name me a Democrat that ever even floated such an idea.

            So yeah, fundamentally the same. No differences at all. Practically the same party. /S

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              And wouldn’t you know it? They stopped.

              Nope, they didn’t.

              Also, they had real evidence.

              Nope, they didn’t.

              Yeah, such a “perfect call,” it landed him RICO charges in GA and two other upcoming similar cases in NV and LA.

              Charges are not convictions.

              But that’s not the same as trying to send fake certificates and a fake slate of Electors, which has landed some of those electors in legal jeopardy.

              The Supreme Court affirmed that the nonconforming electors in 2016 broke state law and upheld criminal penalties against them.

              name me a Democrat that ever even floated such an idea

              CHAZ was an actual insurrection in Portland undertaken by left-wing groups. Unless you’re talking about elected democrats, in which case feel free to name an elected Republican that was ever proven to have done that.

              Got any substantive points, or are you going to just keep peddling misinformation?