• LordR@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    You do realise that if more people would have voted for democrats, student loan loan forgivness would have been granted?

    But yeah, a society without any social safety net, without rights for minorities, with a stupid state religion and 1000 other horrible things is just as bad as people who in the best case change things and worst case don’t make the US worse.

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      Shit, if more people voted in the primaries Bernie would have had a stronger hand to negotiate policy if not having been the nominee either time.

      But these fucksticks have the gall to wonder why people who aren’t them are not voting the way they would for them.

      Millennials and Gen Z could be dominating the primary process and yet underperform their share of the overall population, let alone the share they could easily take up in the democratic party if they didn’t have to be dragged kicking and screaming to mark some squares on a ballot.

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      You do realise that if more people would have voted for democrats, student loan loan forgivness would have been granted?

      Oh come on. They would do what they always fucking do. They’d find just enough no votes.

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        1 year ago

        Then vote them out in the next primaries or unionize and strike. You have more power than you think.

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            1 year ago

            37.06% of voting age population turned out to the 2022 gubernatorial election if 4% more voters that would have voted democrat would have turned up, Texas would now have a democratic governor, but sure you don’t have any power.

            If you vote and enough others can get out there and vote you can change a state but if you just sit home and do nothing, nothing will happen.

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              Great. I already vote in every election and primary. In the primaries, party leadership heavily supports anti-choice anti-labor pro-nra candidates like Cuellar. When their efforts to shut progressives out at the primary level fail, they pull the rug out from under them by withholding funding like they did with Vallejo.

              Don’t lecture me for not being as happy as you are with a party that fights progressives and not Republicans.

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                1 year ago

                Have you tried becoming a State Delegate and influencing the Party Chair? That’s a way to influence who gets to decide about supporting whom, isn’t it?

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                  1 year ago

                  I love how centrists’ answer to anyone pointing out the party’s anti-progressive fuckery is “you’re just not doing enough!”

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                    1 year ago

                    I am definitely not a centrist. I am left and that in Europe but I have enough of people just always blaming others for not getting anything done. This is exactly what happens everywhere right now: People trying to convince voters that their votes don’t matter and that will just lead to conservatives, fascists and far-right parties to win. Because they vote all the time.

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      if more people would have voted for democrats, student loan loan forgivness would have been granted

      you can’t prove that.

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        1 year ago

        No I can’t. But you can’t prove that they wouldn’t either.

        With more democrats DC could be a state for example (Biden approves of that), abortian access could be written in law and student loans could be partially forgiven.
        But unless you vote, we will never know.

        What I know is that Biden DID something about student loans though. For example there is a new repayment plan that does not allow any interest and therefore allows to actually pay off your student loans.
        But yeah, that’s probably norhing acording to you.