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    1 year ago

    Waiting for one of them to chime in with why the person depicted in the meme is good actually

    Something something marketplace of ideas

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      It’s the guy above in this thread saying “Strawman arguments are so boring & ineffectual.”

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          I looked at their history and didn’t really see anything like that. Remember an example?

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            Tell me you don’t understand how party politics & voting work without telling me you don’t understand how party politics & voting work

            …to someone who clearly does understand how party politics and voting work, but it understandably disillusioned by the fact that we have two right-wingers to choose from, albeit one much further to the right than the other. Completely handwaves the negative effects of Democrats’ actions, which are very much in need of criticism.

            I voted for Biden, but it’s been increasingly disappointing to watch stuff like this. Biden opened more concentration camps, Biden continued the wall, Biden took power away from railroad workers in favor of his own lobbyists’ approach, and supported the IRS in auditing unprecedented numbers of low wage earners. We need to talk about these things. This partisan teat-sucking shit needs to stop.

            And if that’s “just how the system works,” then we need a new one. If families need to be imprisoned while Washington moves glacially, then fuck anything and anyone who enables that.

            Ironically, by calling everyone a Russian psy-op who dares criticize the party, Democrats are alienating all except their most conservative voters.

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              Tell me you don’t understand how party politics & voting work without telling me you don’t understand how party politics & voting work

              …to someone who clearly does understand how party politics and voting work,

              Obvious gaslighting is how that sort of person concedes an argument.

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                Sadly, people can see right through it, and with every legitimate criticism of the DNC that gets handwaved away with gaslighting or gets dismissed as mere trolling, more leftist voters are discouraged from believing the Democrats are even willing to start conversations that could lead to real systemic change for the better. It’s sad to see the same partisan teat-sucking from Democrats that we see from Republicans.

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              to be fair, weren’t you in the other thread calling for a boycott of the broken electoral system? that literally does align with Russian propaganda to try and get republicans into power.

              similarly, I’m not saying Berkley was full of Nazis in the 1930, but by golly if pacifism wasn’t ALSO pushed by the literal American fascists during this time…

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                to be fair, weren’t you in the other thread calling for a boycott of the broken electoral system?

                Nope, and this is exactly the sort of unhinged gaslighting to which I’m referring.

                You going to accuse me of this with no evidence, and multiple comments in my history stating otherwise? Fucking quote me. Fucking quote me saying that shit, or shut the fuck up.

                I never said that, and you know it, you fucking liar.

                Edit: For the benefit of anyone who encounters this and thinks I’m wrong, this is what I said in the other thread:

                It’s American “democracy” in action

                Clearly we need a different system, because it’s clear that Democrats will never make the types of change we need, and we sure as hell can’t vote Republican

                It’s a farce

                You will notice it is distinctly NOT a call to boycott elections. This user is absolutely deranged.

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      Hey now, as an upper-middle class politically “center” white heterosexual cis male with “I don’t have to shave daily” five o’clock shadow, I’m offended 🥸