54% of those were suicides. So 22,462 murders or accidents.
Gun laws are never going to prevent suicides, only national mental health care can do that. So looking at the murders and accidents:
22,462 / 474,000,000? 0.0000473878
That’s not a crisis, it’s a rounding error. And, yes, each one of those 22,000 deaths individually is a tragedy, but that also means 473,978,000 guns sat around collecting dust.
but that also means 473,978,000 guns sat around collecting dust.
Nah, many were used for hunting, self defense that didn’t lead to a death, sport shooting, target practice… Etc… Likely orders of magnitude higher than the amount used to commit murders.
Oh, I absolutely get it, what folks outside the US don’t get is the 2nd amendment isn’t going anywhere.
To repeal it, you first have to get 290 votes in the House, which is largely insurmountable. It took George Santos to get that many Congressmen to agree on something.
Then you need 67 votes in the Senate, the body that can’t get past 60 to disable a filibuster.
Assuming, miracle of miracles, that happens, then you need ratification by 38 states.
Biden only won 25, and of those only 19 have Democratic statehouses. You’d need 19 red states to be on board with giving up guns, assuming you didn’t lose any blue states.
Biden can’t get rid of the 2nd amendment, he doesn’t have that ability. In fact, nowhere is the Executive involved in the process, it’s ALL in the legislative branch, first at the federal level, and then at the state level.
He can call for it all he wants, but that’s not going to get him 290 votes in the House, 67 votes in the Senate, and ratification by 38 states.
Oh I see the problem, you don’t actually read what people tell you and you just respond with what you’ve heard right-wing talking heads say hoping it’s relevant. Let me try again in a font you’re more used to, HE ISN’T TRYING TO GET RID OF AN ENTIRE AMENDMENT STOP TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN.
Not necessarily, it could be used for hunting, or target practice, but any gun that isn’t actively being used is, yeah, kind of just sitting around somewhere.
You don’t think the nra telling people to be scared and that they need a gun to feel safe is more of the issue?
Not really, because the vast, vast, number of gun owners don’t use them.
Let me give you some perspective…
We don’t REALLY know, but the best estimate is there are around 474 MILLION guns in the United States.
https://www.thetrace.org/2023/03/guns-america-data-atf-total/
In 2021, 48,830 people died from gun injuries.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/
54% of those were suicides. So 22,462 murders or accidents.
Gun laws are never going to prevent suicides, only national mental health care can do that. So looking at the murders and accidents:
22,462 / 474,000,000? 0.0000473878
That’s not a crisis, it’s a rounding error. And, yes, each one of those 22,000 deaths individually is a tragedy, but that also means 473,978,000 guns sat around collecting dust.
Nah, many were used for hunting, self defense that didn’t lead to a death, sport shooting, target practice… Etc… Likely orders of magnitude higher than the amount used to commit murders.
Jesus christ… Let’s compare to other developed nations, wanna do per capita or total?
Other countries don’t have a 2nd Amendment. Not the same thing.
You’re so close to getting it.
Oh, I absolutely get it, what folks outside the US don’t get is the 2nd amendment isn’t going anywhere.
To repeal it, you first have to get 290 votes in the House, which is largely insurmountable. It took George Santos to get that many Congressmen to agree on something.
Then you need 67 votes in the Senate, the body that can’t get past 60 to disable a filibuster.
Assuming, miracle of miracles, that happens, then you need ratification by 38 states.
Biden only won 25, and of those only 19 have Democratic statehouses. You’d need 19 red states to be on board with giving up guns, assuming you didn’t lose any blue states.
So, yeah, Good Luck!
My advice to the kids in tomorrow’s mass shooting I guess 🤷
They should at least understand the barriers and work towards a solution that isn’t “well, ban guns.” Because that won’t happen.
https://apnews.com/article/atlanta-georgia-fatal-shooting-20be8a8bcfb4ac0cdc60fe11ecd0a469
You’ve looped back around to not getting it. Biden isn’t trying to get rid of the second ammendment but keep being scared of your own shadow.
Biden can’t get rid of the 2nd amendment, he doesn’t have that ability. In fact, nowhere is the Executive involved in the process, it’s ALL in the legislative branch, first at the federal level, and then at the state level.
He can call for it all he wants, but that’s not going to get him 290 votes in the House, 67 votes in the Senate, and ratification by 38 states.
Oh I see the problem, you don’t actually read what people tell you and you just respond with what you’ve heard right-wing talking heads say hoping it’s relevant. Let me try again in a font you’re more used to, HE ISN’T TRYING TO GET RID OF AN ENTIRE AMENDMENT STOP TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN.
You’re right, you guys have the right to shoot yourselves and each other. Carry on.
So if a gun isn’t being used to kill someone it is collecng dust?
Not necessarily, it could be used for hunting, or target practice, but any gun that isn’t actively being used is, yeah, kind of just sitting around somewhere.