So you’re incapable of imagining a hypothetical where even you agree that what I’m trying to say is completely innocuous?
Or do you actually think that there’s no situation when an innocuous comment gets deleted (even though there are countless examples online of people in the same situation as me)?
Honestly worrying if people have this much faith in auto-moderation systems.
It’s not one comment like I said. It’s at least 50% of the comments I make, completely harmless.
Sometimes I might say things like “This is really messed up” and it gets deleted. Or often it’s not even that, like just random sentences. I literally can’t think of examples because it happens so often. As many other people can attest to, their account often seems to be unable to comment completely innocuous things while other accounts are able to. If you have supreme faith in AI and YouTube auto-moderation, then you might say “Whatever is happening, you deserve it.” Which seems to be the prevailing view here, sadly.
But I just ask you to think a bit more compassionately and not assume the worst of people. There are many cases of similar situations that prove that there are completely innocent people having their comments removed for no reason. I’m thinking I might have to find one and post it here so people believe me.
See what I mean? I provide examples and no one cares. Just more downvotes. Just really toxic behaviour here. You are probably the ones who deserve to have your comments deleted more than me.
First, it’s the responsibility of channel owners to delete comments. They can use an automod from Youtube itself, which is quite bad and often doesn’t delete comments that should be deleted.
So many channel owners use open source tools that are more capable and/or do manual moderation. And they do use banlists that automatically delete all comments by users on the banlist. Considering that you admitted that 50% of your comments are problematic and worth being deleted, you probably already are on many of these banlists.
Second, you didn’t provide examples (plural), but only one example: “That’s really messed up”. You didn’t provide any context. And depending on the context, this comment could be totally not ok. E.g.: “Poor people have a right to live” - “That’s totally messed up”.
And third: By your own admission, 50% of your comments are bad and deserve to be banned. Looking at your comment history, that’s a very favourable estimate. That is toxic behaviour and you don’t get any pitty points for being sad that you get blocked.
If you don’t want to be blocked, try to keep your toxic shitposting closer to 0% and not at 50%.
Why do you choose to assume the worst and not believe people? I didn’t say 50% of my comments are problematic and worth deleting. I said 50% GET deleted unfairly. You are putting supreme faith in the YouTube moderation system and assuming that it doesn’t make mistakes when it clearly does. Unlike other people’s comments which deserve to be removed but aren’t, nothing I’m saying is problematic at all.
I don’t know why that would be but it only happens on certain, random comments. Sometimes it’s if I mention a brand or company or institution of some kind, without any criticism or anything, a mainstream company, other times just completely random stuff that’s not even referencing anything in particular. Shadow deletion I guess, but I have no idea why.
As other people have said, you have to show us your posting history. Not summarizations of it, not characterizations of it, we have to see the literal literal text that’s causing the issue. Otherwise we can’t help you
You can, you just don’t want to. What is stopping you from helping me? At least be honest. If you had a solution for an alternative text script that worked, you could just provide it. I did my best to give examples already
None of your examples were direct text quotes so we could see what was triggering the algorithm.
I suspect what you consider common sense, and normal, is being flagged as offensive and off topic in the discussion. Because you refused to provide direct quotes That’s the most reasonable deduction for your readers to take away.
But sure I’ll give you good advice:
Use a large language model, like chat GPT, and have it form a comment, that is both helpful, supportive, thoughtful, engaging. Based on the thesis you want to convey.
So you’re incapable of imagining a hypothetical where even you agree that what I’m trying to say is completely innocuous?
Or do you actually think that there’s no situation when an innocuous comment gets deleted (even though there are countless examples online of people in the same situation as me)?
Honestly worrying if people have this much faith in auto-moderation systems.
Tell us your innocuous comment and we’ll tell you if we agree. Otherwise don’t reply.
It’s not one comment like I said. It’s at least 50% of the comments I make, completely harmless.
Sometimes I might say things like “This is really messed up” and it gets deleted. Or often it’s not even that, like just random sentences. I literally can’t think of examples because it happens so often. As many other people can attest to, their account often seems to be unable to comment completely innocuous things while other accounts are able to. If you have supreme faith in AI and YouTube auto-moderation, then you might say “Whatever is happening, you deserve it.” Which seems to be the prevailing view here, sadly.
But I just ask you to think a bit more compassionately and not assume the worst of people. There are many cases of similar situations that prove that there are completely innocent people having their comments removed for no reason. I’m thinking I might have to find one and post it here so people believe me.
See what I mean? I provide examples and no one cares. Just more downvotes. Just really toxic behaviour here. You are probably the ones who deserve to have your comments deleted more than me.
First, it’s the responsibility of channel owners to delete comments. They can use an automod from Youtube itself, which is quite bad and often doesn’t delete comments that should be deleted.
So many channel owners use open source tools that are more capable and/or do manual moderation. And they do use banlists that automatically delete all comments by users on the banlist. Considering that you admitted that 50% of your comments are problematic and worth being deleted, you probably already are on many of these banlists.
Second, you didn’t provide examples (plural), but only one example: “That’s really messed up”. You didn’t provide any context. And depending on the context, this comment could be totally not ok. E.g.: “Poor people have a right to live” - “That’s totally messed up”.
And third: By your own admission, 50% of your comments are bad and deserve to be banned. Looking at your comment history, that’s a very favourable estimate. That is toxic behaviour and you don’t get any pitty points for being sad that you get blocked.
If you don’t want to be blocked, try to keep your toxic shitposting closer to 0% and not at 50%.
Why do you choose to assume the worst and not believe people? I didn’t say 50% of my comments are problematic and worth deleting. I said 50% GET deleted unfairly. You are putting supreme faith in the YouTube moderation system and assuming that it doesn’t make mistakes when it clearly does. Unlike other people’s comments which deserve to be removed but aren’t, nothing I’m saying is problematic at all.
Sounds like your account’s just being shadow bannned
I don’t know why that would be but it only happens on certain, random comments. Sometimes it’s if I mention a brand or company or institution of some kind, without any criticism or anything, a mainstream company, other times just completely random stuff that’s not even referencing anything in particular. Shadow deletion I guess, but I have no idea why.
As other people have said, you have to show us your posting history. Not summarizations of it, not characterizations of it, we have to see the literal literal text that’s causing the issue. Otherwise we can’t help you
You can, you just don’t want to. What is stopping you from helping me? At least be honest. If you had a solution for an alternative text script that worked, you could just provide it. I did my best to give examples already
None of your examples were direct text quotes so we could see what was triggering the algorithm.
I suspect what you consider common sense, and normal, is being flagged as offensive and off topic in the discussion. Because you refused to provide direct quotes That’s the most reasonable deduction for your readers to take away.
But sure I’ll give you good advice:
Use a large language model, like chat GPT, and have it form a comment, that is both helpful, supportive, thoughtful, engaging. Based on the thesis you want to convey.